[comp.emacs] Emacs to Multimate conversion

borchert@kodak.UUCP (cliff borchert) (02/10/88)

I use Emacs (GNU/Micro) on several systems, however, when communicating
with the less enlightened within my company I have to use Multimate, an IBM
PC based word-processor. Does anyone know of a way to convert back and forth
between the two, without large doses of hacking?  Thanks for the help.

mikep@ism780c.UUCP (02/11/88)

In article <1122@kodak.UUCP> borchert@kodak.UUCP (cliff borchert) writes:
>I use Emacs (GNU/Micro) on several systems, however, when communicating
>with the less enlightened within my company I have to use Multimate, an IBM
>PC based word-processor. Does anyone know of a way to convert back and forth
>between the two, without large doses of hacking?  Thanks for the help.

Since GNU uses ASCII files, it's just a matter of converting from
ASCII to MM format.  

To convert from ASCII -> MM, you have to use the "util" program
and access the file conversion tools.  This is long and slow, but
the only way to do it using just the package w/o hacking.

To convert from MM -> ASCII, you could also use the "util" program,
but it's slow.  There is a faster method in this direction.  Print
the document (MM) to a file using the "CRLF" printer filter.  This
will produce ASCII and be a hell of a lot faster than using util.

DISCLAIMER:  it's been about a year since I farted with MM, so
this may be totally wrong.

-MikeP

vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (vu0112) (02/11/88)

Multimate is distributed with utilities to convert ASCII to/from
Multimate file formats.

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mdm@cocktrice.uucp (Mike Mitchell) (02/11/88)

The Multimate folks have given you the ability to do this from the very
early releases of this program. What you are looking for is a capability
provided by the UTIL program (Utility Disk).

The menu selection you wish to do is "File Conversion." Then you wish to
convert from ASCII text (Emacs files) to Multimate (Document files). The
process is fully documented in the Advanced User's section of the Multimate
manual.

I have had to help users with this in the past so I know it is possible.
Sit down with a backup copy of your document (Emacs style) and give it 
a go. I shouldn't take too long to figure out.

dave@westmark.UUCP (Dave Levenson) (02/12/88)

In article <1122@kodak.UUCP>, borchert@kodak.UUCP (cliff borchert) writes:
> 
> I use Emacs (GNU/Micro) on several systems, however, when communicating
> with the less enlightened within my company I have to use Multimate, an IBM
> PC based word-processor. Does anyone know of a way to convert back and forth
> between the two, without large doses of hacking?  Thanks for the help.

I'm not familiar with Miltimate, but most word-processors have a
command called import, or something similar, that enables them to
read a bare ascii file.  The files read by import (and written by
export) commands typically contain no formatting information, and
look like the text files we work with when we use an editor like
emacs.
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Dave Levenson
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Warren, NJ USA
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infocntr@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Geri N. Finkelstein) (02/13/88)

In article <189@cocktrice.uucp>, mdm@cocktrice.uucp (Mike Mitchell) writes:
> The Multimate folks have given you the ability to do this from the very
> early releases of this program. What you are looking for is a capability
> provided by the UTIL program (Utility Disk).
> 
> The menu selection you wish to do is "File Conversion." Then you wish to
> convert from ASCII text (Emacs files) to Multimate (Document files). The
> process is fully documented in the Advanced User's section of the Multimate
> manual.
> 
> I have had to help users with this in the past so I know it is possible.
> Sit down with a backup copy of your document (Emacs style) and give it 
> a go. I shouldn't take too long to figure out.

If you're using Advantage II (MultiMate's latest version) you don't have
to use "File Conversion" on the utility disk--there is a new feature
accessible from within a document which allows direct ASCII import into
the open document.  It brings the text in rather smoothly....

As was already mentioned, the easiest method going the other way
(MultiMate to ASCII) is printing to disk.  Use the TTYCRLF PAT table but
make the following modifications to your document--take out any headers/
footers.  Then on your print screen change your margin to 0, top margin
to 0 and page length to 1.  You'll get your text (relatively painlessly!)

Hope this helps.
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