crm@duke.cs.duke.edu (Charlie Martin) (02/27/88)
Look, I don't care what goes or does not go onto info-gnu-emacs: I don't subscribe to it myself. I *do* subscribe to comp.emacs. The political content of info-gnu-emacs filters over here. Honest. I don't know what Evil Plots are being perpetrated by the Evil Software Hoarders, and I don't care. In fact, since I have at times made a fair bit of my living selling rights to products of my intellect under copyright --- like writing English, copyright, that sort of thing --- I imagine that push comes to shove I *am* an Evil Software Hoarder and intend to remain one. But vortex is certainly of interest to emacs users, whether GNU or other. Vortex is also, as far as I understand, not exactly the most "proprietary" of software. The Regents of the University of California insist on keeping copyright and licensing the software, but the fee is small, if not trivial. The people who wrote it don't have a little bit of control over this, except by quitting the school. Since most of those people were in degree programs, this fits into the category of shooting self in foot. The point of this tirade is that *I* at least am tired of hearing about it. If info-gnu-emacs is not an appropriate place to talk about vortex, then it is equally not an appropriate place to talk about Unipress Emacs (obvious), UNIX, or BSD UNIX, or AT&T C++; however, none of those apply to comp.emacs, which is certainly an appropriate place to discuss any emacs, and any topic that applies to emacs, like the use of vortex. -- Charlie Martin (crm@cs.duke.edu,mcnc!duke!crm)