[comp.emacs] novice Gnews questions

sdy@ssc-vax.UUCP (Dalek Killer) (05/18/88)

Ok thanks to the kind ftp spirits at osu-cis I've snarfed a copy of Gnews to
try and implement on my account -- only I don't think we have nntp -- whatever
that is, we're running the spooled version of news (B2.11). Ok so I tried using
the code in gnewspool.el like the header says but no go -- no .gnewsrc is
generated and it still trys (and fails) to access my local nntp site (I used
our machine name there).  But it does leave me with a Gnews buffer and a
running process that needs to be killed when you exit emacs.

So the questions are: 
   Does anyone have a (relatively) short tutorial on how to set up Gnews? 
   Has anyone ever gotten the spooled version to work? 
   What is nntp and where can I take a look at the descriptions?
   Where are the Gnu Emacs Lisp manuals/hints/pseudo-documents?
   What ever happened to baby Jane?

I do have better than reading knowledge of lisp, however I have a much harder
time following the intended structure of Emacs than the code itself.

Thank you for Your support

steve
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bob@allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) (05/19/88)

In article <1075@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP> sdy@ssc-vax.UUCP (Dalek Killer) writes:
>... thanks to the kind ftp spirits at osu-cis ...

(I think he's talking about us...) You're welcome!  It's always nice
to hear from a satisfied "customer".

>   What is nntp and where can I take a look at the descriptions?

NNTP is the Network News Transport Protocol, used to carry and read
news across an IP network.  It's described in RFC 977, available in
osu-cis!/u/public/rfc/rfc977.Z for your perusal.  You'll find the
current software in osu-cis!/u/public/nntp/nntp1.5.tar.Z if you'd like
a copy.
-=-
 Bob Sutterfield, Department of Computer and Information Science
 The Ohio State University; 2036 Neil Ave. Columbus OH USA 43210-1277
 bob@cis.ohio-state.edu or ...!att!osu-cis!bob

sdy@ssc-vax.UUCP (Steven D. Yee -- Mr. Thrint) (05/25/88)

In article <1075@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP>, sdy@ssc-vax.UUCP (Dalek Killer) writes:
> Ok thanks to the kind ftp spirits at osu-cis I've snarfed a copy of Gnews to
...
>    Does anyone have a (relatively) short tutorial on how to set up Gnews? 
>    Has anyone ever gotten the spooled version to work? 
>    What is nntp and where can I take a look at the descriptions?
>    Where are the Gnu Emacs Lisp manuals/hints/pseudo-documents?
>    What ever happened to baby Jane?
...


Thanks to jr@bbn.com I now have a working copy of gnews running with the
spooler, since I only received 2 replies to my plea I can assume that non-nntp
usage is fairly rare (ihnp4!cray!hrp, jr, and me :-)


steve.



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Steven D. Yee                 >>> my employer does not share my opinions  <<<
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                There are ways of dealing with people like you.

nate@mipos3.intel.com (Nate Hess) (05/26/88)

In article <1076@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP> sdy@ssc-vax.UUCP (Steven D. Yee -- Mr. Thrint) writes:
>Thanks to jr@bbn.com I now have a working copy of gnews running with the
>spooler, since I only received 2 replies to my plea I can assume that non-nntp
>usage is fairly rare (ihnp4!cray!hrp, jr, and me :-)

Well, I used it for about two days with the spooler code, but the result
was too sloooooooow to be workable.  Gnews is *much* faster when running
through nntp.

--woodstock
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jr@bbn.com (John Robinson) (05/27/88)

In article <1076@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP>, sdy@ssc-vax (Steven D. Yee -- Mr. Thrint) writes:
>since I only received 2 replies to my plea I can assume that non-nntp
>usage is fairly rare (ihnp4!cray!hrp, jr, and me :-)

... and I don't even use it.  After getting it working, I found that
on a pretty heavily-used ethernet, it is faster to use nntp than to
NFS mount /usr/spool/news from the same remote machine.
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