tmoody@sjuvax.UUCP (T. Moody) (11/22/88)
Two questions, really.
(1) A while back, someone posted a question about how to do a global
delete without exiting micro-emacs and restarting the program to reset
the default replace string to the null string. I don't recall seeing an
*answer* to this question, however. Does anyone know how to do it?
(2) I just acquired 3.10 (beta). While the emacs.rc file supplied with
the program, and its associated command modules, seems to work fine, the
emacs.rc file that I had built for my own use doesn't work at all with
this version (although it works fine with 3.9n). Whatever function key
I press, I get the message "Key not bound." I do not have the new docs
(this is a monster file that I cannot afford to download from Indiana),
but I am wondering if the syntax for binding functions to keys has been
changed.
Thanks.
--
Todd Moody * {allegra|astrovax|bpa|burdvax}!sjuvax!tmoody * SJU Phil. Dept.
"The mind-forg'd manacles I hear." -- William Blakenwd@j.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Lawrence) (11/23/88)
In article <1712@sjuvax.UUCP> tmoody@sjuvax.UUCP (T. Moody) writes: > >Two questions, really. > >(1) A while back, someone posted a question about how to do a global >delete without exiting micro-emacs and restarting the program to reset >the default replace string to the null string. I don't recall seeing an >*answer* to this question, however. Does anyone know how to do it? > M-^X set $replace "" put this command line in a macro and bind it to a key. >(2) I just acquired 3.10 (beta). While the emacs.rc file supplied with >the program, and its associated command modules, seems to work fine, the >emacs.rc file that I had built for my own use doesn't work at all with >this version (although it works fine with 3.9n). Whatever function key >I press, I get the message "Key not bound." I do not have the new docs >(this is a monster file that I cannot afford to download from Indiana), >but I am wondering if the syntax for binding functions to keys has been >changed. > Between 3.9p and 3.10 the syntax for specifying function keys changed. Rather than the cryptic IBM-PC key scan codes that were being used, 3.10 now uses a standard machine independant set of codes. Function key 4 is, for example, FN4. The program called CMDFIX.EXE which was also in the file area you downloaded EMACS from can be run on any old command file to automatically translate it. ----=====FLAME ON====----- Yes, the document is big. But on other hand, so is the program it is describing. I and a lot of others spend a lot of time assisting people in setting up and using this program and others and it really irks me when I have to waste time describing things that I have already painstakingly documented in the manual. Yes it costs to download from Indiana... but good lord, the program is FREE! So instead here we are taking up beucoup bucks on lots of machines across the nation instead to spread these requests/answers around USENET. Todd, this is not really specifically directed at you. It is just that I have spent 3 years in my spare time working on this program and lately I have been getting a lot of indignant people upset because I have not been available for 24 hour phone support. (Support calls from germany and australia come in at the oddest times). Yesterday I was in the middle of band practice (I play guitar) and someone called me up to complain about a bug in MicroEMACS version 3.7i. I told him that it got fixed 2 years agon, shortly after that version was released. Then I explained function the bug was in and how to fix it, and how to get a current version. He then curtly informed me that it was probably too much trouble for him to bother and he would probably go out and buy UNIPRESS EMACS. Why did this BOZO bother calling me? ----=====FLAME OFF====----- BTW, for people who have downloaded the BETA, the purpose of a BETA is to test a version for later general release. If you have 3.10 BETA, please respond to me with comments... even if it is to say everything works, because this will make sure we put out a solid release. >Thanks. > >-- >Todd Moody * {allegra|astrovax|bpa|burdvax}!sjuvax!tmoody * SJU Phil. Dept. > "The mind-forg'd manacles I hear." -- William Blake Thanx Todd and all for letting me babble, Daniel Lawrence (317) 742-5153 nwd@j.cc.purdue.edu The Programmer's Room Fido 1:201/10 (317) 742-5533
mlm@homxc.UUCP (Mark L. Milliman @ AT&T-Bell Laboratories) (11/28/88)
Would someone please tell me where I could find version 3.10 of MicroEmacs. I no longer have a direct ARPAnet connection, so I cannot get it from simtel20. If you have the complete archive, you can mail it to me or send it by UUCP to the below address. Thanks, Mark L. Milliman UUCP: att!homxc!mlm AT&T Bell Laboratories Internet: mlm@homxc.att.com Room 1B-407 Holmdel, New Jersey 07733 (201)949-0796
tmoody@sjuvax.UUCP (T. Moody) (11/28/88)
In article <8335@j.cc.purdue.edu> nwd@j.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Lawrence) writes: > M-^X set $replace "" > > put this command line in a macro and bind it to a key. Thanks, I'll do it. > Between 3.9p and 3.10 the syntax for specifying function keys >changed. Rather than the cryptic IBM-PC key scan codes that were being >used, 3.10 now uses a standard machine independant set of codes. I'm embarrassed. When I took a closer look at the new emacs.rc file, I noticed the change at once. Well, thanks for changing it; it certainly makes things easier to read. >----=====FLAME ON====----- > Yes, the document is big. But on other hand, so is the program >it is describing. I and a lot of others spend a lot of time assisting >people in setting up and using this program and others and it really >irks me when I have to waste time describing things that I have already >painstakingly documented in the manual. Yes it costs to download from >Indiana... but good lord, the program is FREE! So instead here we are >taking up beucoup bucks on lots of machines across the nation instead to >spread these requests/answers around USENET. Guilty. In fact, I could not download the docs anyway. What I can't afford yet is a new modem. My old one was smitten by lightning. At 300 baud, the doc file would far exceed my time privileges at the Programmer's Room. If I had 1200 baud again, I simply would have downloaded the file. But this is not your problem. Your irritation is justified; I simply want to register the point that I was not *complaining* about the size of the docs. On the contrary, the documentation for micro-emacs is a welcome exception to the rule of sparse or unintelligible documentation for non-commercial (and many comercial) programs. If the file were tiny, there would be something to complain about. > Thanx Todd and all for letting me babble, > Daniel Lawrence I think you've earned it. -- Todd Moody * {allegra|astrovax|bpa|burdvax}!sjuvax!tmoody * SJU Phil. Dept. "The mind-forg'd manacles I hear." -- William Blake
nwd@j.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Lawrence) (11/28/88)
In article <4337@homxc.UUCP> mlm@homxc.UUCP (Mark L. Milliman @ AT&T-Bell Laboratories) writes: >Would someone please tell me where I could find version 3.10 of MicroEmacs. >I no longer have a direct ARPAnet connection, so I cannot get it from >simtel20. If you have the complete archive, you can mail it to me or send >it by UUCP to the below address. > >Thanks, >Mark L. Milliman UUCP: att!homxc!mlm Yes, I can always tell when a release comes up. My mail box is flooded with requests like this. Is there a specific newsgroup for release notices? If everyone would subscribe to something like this, and someone were to keep track of the current version number and pickup locations of all the major share/freeware products and periodically post a summery. In any case, version 3.10 of MicroEMACS is in BETA test right now, and it looks like we will have it very solid. I am scheduling the final release from my BBS in the middle of December and it will probably be availible from various FTP archives shortly after that. (SIMTEL20 is certainly on of these sites). In the meantime I would really greatly appreciate a lowering of the "is it ready mail". Also calls to my house in the middle of the night tend to slow down work. I know people are anxious, but this is getting out of hand. (Remember, if you are in a different time zone, please calculate the time differences... calling in the business day from australia tends to leave me grumpy). Daniel Lawrence (317) 742-5153 nwd@j.cc.purdue.edu The Programmer's Room Fido 1:201/10 (317) 742-5533
waters@dover.uucp (Mike Waters) (12/01/88)
In hopes of defusing a whole bunch of "dumb questions" like my own, In article <8358@j.cc.purdue.edu> nwd@j.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Lawrence) writes: > I am scheduling the >final release from my BBS in the middle of December and it will probably >be availible from various FTP archives shortly after that. (SIMTEL20 is >certainly on of these sites). You imply (but nowhere explicitly SAY) that "my BBS" on which you will post the new version of MicroEMACS is: > The Programmer's Room Fido 1:201/10 > (317) 742-5533 I guess the best idea would be to post an announcement to this newsgroup whenever it IS available. I for one will be watching, and could make it available on the EDIF User Group BBS (602) 994-6889 if there is enough interest. I will be waiting (quietly if not patiently) in the wings. -- Mike Waters (for your EDIFication) Motorola SMART CAD Group - EDIF (ANSI/EIA std. 548) support Mesa, AZ ...!sun!sunburn!dover!waters OR moto@cad.Berkley.EDU