news@jpusa1.UUCP (usenet) (07/13/87)
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In article <2850@ncoast.UUCP> allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) writes:
-As quoted from <977@cognos.UUCP> by jimp@cognos.uucp (Jim Patterson):
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-| If people are interested I can assemble diff listings to post (I
-| haven't seen much discussion about JOVE lately, even though we use it
-| a lot).
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-I'd be interested. I use jove heavily (ever try to run GNU Emacs on a
-1MB non-VM system?).
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-BTW, is there a mailing list or other discussion group for Jove?
This seems to be the place for now. Let's get the bugs fixed. I use an older version
of jove that's been hacked to use pipes for sysv. Does anyone have the newer jove working
with pipes so you can run a process in a window? If so, how about sending the diffs to
comp.sources.misc. Brandon, how about posting your fixes?
Stu Heiss {gargoyle,ihnp4}!jpusa1!stujpayne@rochester.arpa (Jonathan Payne) (07/15/87)
Okay, it's about time I got around to distributing JOVE again. Since I distributed it to mod.sources a while ago (months!) I have received and fixed all the bug that were reported, and made a few enhancements of my own. TONIGHT I will get the diffs together and mail them out and/or I will get started with making a whole new distribution. Is it generally agreeable to send everything to mod.sources? BTW, the bugs mentioned in the recent articles have been fixed...
wagner@iaoobelix.UUCP (09/12/87)
Jove is available from one of the archive sites (for a list of
those, see Rich $alz's most recent info in comp.sources.unix).
You should be able to FTP the sources from one of these hosts.
Juergen Wagner, (USENET) ...seismo!unido!iaoobel!wagner
("Gandalf") Fraunhofer Institute IAO, Stuttgartallbery@ncoast.UUCP (09/24/87)
Speaking of Jove: the upgrade kit sent out on comp.sources.unix wants a file
called "argcount.c", which doesn't seem to have come with the kit. Did I
do something wrong, or is the kit missing parts, or did someone slip, or ???
Thanks in advance.
--
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"Mummy, what's an opinion?"las@msudoc.UUCP (11/18/87)
I've finally gotten Jove to compile under SCO XENIX/286 2.2 with the last set of patches posted to the net, however, ... when it comes up it prints a half line of capital G's and rings the bell, gives the error message "line too long" on the status line and then freezes. Anyone had a similar problem and know the solution? Also does anyone know what the value Of L_SET in file fp.c should be? I take it it should be 0, 1, or 2. Would appreciate any help or suggestions. thanks, ==larry --------------------------- LARRY SHIELDS UUCP: ...!ihnp4!msudoc!lunapark!larry P.O. Box 6159 BIX: lshields E. Lansing, MI 48826 Compuserve: 70277, 3677 BBS: lunapark 1200/2400 8-1-N 24hrs 7 days a week (517) 337-3844 login: bbs
xev@hstbme.mit.edu (Xev Gittler) (01/19/88)
What is the latest version of Jove? Does anyone have a copy for ftp'ing? Xev Gittler xev@hstbme.mit.edu, or xev@athena.mit.edu
jpayne@cs.rochester.edu (Jonathan Payne) (01/19/88)
In article <2346@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> xev@hstbme.mit.edu (Xev Gittler) writes: > >What is the latest version of Jove? Does anyone have a copy for >ftp'ing? > > Xev Gittler > xev@hstbme.mit.edu, or > xev@athena.mit.edu The latest version of JOVE is 4.8b, fresh off the press today. It's available via ftp on cs.rochester.edu. Login to anonymous and get file public/jove.tar.4.8b. Don't be alarmed if you try doing a dir from ftp and it prints nothing - there is something wrong with that command. But it's there. This version has some bug fixes, new commands, and the IBM PC code is written for MSC 5.0. Version 4.9 of JOVE will be coming out in a few weeks, and it should run on the Macintosh.
cooper@beowulf.ucsd.edu (Kenneth B Cooper) (01/23/88)
Will the mac version be mac II compatible? Ken Cooper cooper@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu
conway@hpdtl.HP.COM (Daniel F. Conway) (12/02/88)
/ hpdtl:comp.emacs / mike@wucs1.wustl.edu (Mike Ehlers) / 12:54 pm Nov 28, 1988 / > My .signature seems to have been left off my request for information about > the availability of JOVE source via anonymous ftp. Any information about > its availability welcomed. "I see no .signature here" (either)
lea362@estevax_a.UUCP (Hr Lea Iain ) (03/01/89)
I have been using and evaluating the JOVE (Ver. 4.9) editor for
the last few weeks on a Xenix 386 PC and a Vax DSD4.3 and am quite
pleased with the product.
But i have a few questions to ask concerning a few of the commands :
1) I have defined, named and saved to a file a few keyboard macros
(no problem), but when i try to read the macros from the file
there is no command to do it. The manual states that the command
read-macros-from-file should be used, but it does not seem to be
implemented. Is this command implemented or is there an error
between the product and its manual ?
2) On the Vax i have a Wyse wy85 terminal set to emulate a vt100.
I have tried to configure the keyboard to my tastes and have
been less than successful. I have tried to bind-to-key commands
with the numeric keypad and also the four cursor keys. In respect
to the cursor keys i have been able to use the Prefix-3 command
in my .joverc file at startup. The problem as far as i can tell
is that the keypad and cursor keys seem to generate a 3 byte code
instead of the normal 2 byte code. Has any one an idea how i can
use the keypad, cursor keys and function keys to execute commands ?
3) I wish to have a form of programming on-line help available. I
have created a text file of the most popular 'C' commands i.e.
int ferror(stream); FILE *stream
and wish to be able to view a specified commands syntax easily.
The simple way to do this is to use shell-command-with-typeout
and then 'grep <command name> helpfile'. Considering that on-line
help should be quick and easy to access the outlined solution
has fallen short in both respects. I would like to be able to
activate a help macro (or whatever solution) by just selecting
the word that the cursor (point) is on i.e. cursor is in the
middle of the word 'read(' and it would list all the correct
syntax for the 'C' command 'read'. Any suggestions ?
4) Has anyone written any interactive macros that use the command
make-macro-interactive. If so could you please post or mail an
example(s).
5) I have been tinkering with word abbreviations and would like to
know if there is a limit to the number of abbreviations JOVE
can handle. I entered over 150 and when i saved the abbreviations
and later used some of them i found that only about 65-70 had
been saved. If there is a limit can it be changed ?
and finally !!
6) Has anyone used JOVE with the Clipper compiler (Dbase compatiable)
and written any routines or macros to speed up & ease the
development of large programs. Also has anyone written a 'tags'
generator for the Dbase/Clipper language. Last but not least has
anyone converted the error messages from the clipper compiler to
a form usable by the next-error / previous-error commands ?
Any tips, code examples (macros & C) would be much appreciated.
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+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+arc1@ukc.ac.uk (A.R.Curtis) (03/03/89)
In article <136@estevax_a.UUCP> lea362@estevax_a.UUCP (Hr Lea Iain ) writes: > 1) I have defined, named and saved to a file a few keyboard macros > (no problem), but when i try to read the macros from the file > there is no command to do it. If you look at the on-line description of write-macros-to-file it says you can read them back in like you do for named commands, i.e. SOURCE. > > instead of the normal 2 byte code. Has any one an idea how i can > use the keypad, cursor keys and function keys to execute commands ? What you probably are referring to is the ansi-codes function. Try binding as follows (taken from my .joverc) bind-to-key ansi-codes ^[O bind-to-key ansi-codes ^[[ Then use describe-command to find out what each of the function and cursor keys generate if you're not sure, and then you can bind them how you want (wyse85's are nice...) > activate a help macro (or whatever solution) by just selecting > the word that the cursor (point) is on i.e. cursor is in the > middle of the word 'read(' and it would list all the correct Don't think this can be done actually. It can be (and is) in GNU-Emacs but that's because the programmability allows it. JOVE (to my knowledge, but there again I occasionally discover something new and useful) hasn't got these read-from-buffer type thingies. I fit has please let me/everyone know. > 4) Has anyone written any interactive macros that use the command > make-macro-interactive. If so could you please post or mail an > example(s). I haven't > 5) I have been tinkering with word abbreviations and would like to > know if there is a limit to the number of abbreviations JOVE > can handle. I entered over 150 and when i saved the abbreviations > and later used some of them i found that only about 65-70 had > been saved. If there is a limit can it be changed ? I don't know what the limit (if any) is. If you have the source code you could probably work it out. >and finally !! > > 6) Has anyone used JOVE with the Clipper compiler (Dbase compatiable) > and written any routines or macros to speed up & ease the > development of large programs. Also has anyone written a 'tags' > generator for the Dbase/Clipper language. Last but not least has > anyone converted the error messages from the clipper compiler to > a form usable by the next-error / previous-error commands ? > You can set the variable error-format-string to be a regexp denoting an error string in the compile window (well, that's normally where to look for errors with {next,previous}-error) Hope that helps somewhat Tony -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Curtis, Computing Lab. | Phone 0227 764000 Univ. Kent at Canterbury | Ext. 3812 or 7617 Canterbury, Kent CT2 7NF | arc1@uk.ac.ukc
rkxyv@mergvax (Rob Kedoin) (03/06/89)
To get the arrow keys on the WY85 (and vt100 type terminal) to work:
set ansi-codes ESC [
This binds the arrow keys to previous-line, next-line, forward-char, and
backward-char. (hmmm...I just noticed something odd. I have this set in
the system-wide joverc as ESC O.)
Anyway, the jove manual specifies ESC [. ESC O (oh) seems to be working
fine for me.
Hope this helps.
-Rob Kedoin
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In article <12524@vaxnix.UUCP> ron@vaxnix.UUCP (Ron Light) writes: >In article <137@estevax_a.UUCP> lea362@estevax_a.UUCP (Hr Lea Iain ) writes: >: >: I have been using and evaluating the JOVE (Ver. 4.9) editor for >:the last few weeks on a Xenix 386 PC and a Vax DSD4.3 and am quite >:pleased with the product. >: >: 2) On the Vax i have a Wyse wy85 terminal set to emulate a vt100. >: I have tried to configure the keyboard to my tastes and have >: been less than successful. I have tried to bind-to-key commands >: with the numeric keypad and also the four cursor keys. In respect >: to the cursor keys i have been able to use the Prefix-3 command >: in my .joverc file at startup. The problem as far as i can tell >: is that the keypad and cursor keys seem to generate a 3 byte code >: instead of the normal 2 byte code. Has any one an idea how i can >: use the keypad, cursor keys and function keys to execute commands ? > >Jove will *only* accept two characters for any command, (i.e. ESC letter). >Since some terminals output "ESC [ A" for an arrow key, jove complains that >ESC [ is not bound and then inserts the A as text. What you'll have to do >is to hack jove to bind ESC [ to go off to a (you build it) function that >will get the next letter and move the cursor based on that letter. This >will make your version HIGHLY terminal dependent, but at least the arrow >keys will work. Other terminals that have a problem are ones that output >the arrow keys as "DEL letter" Or, you could always get version 4.12 of JOVE (cs.rochester.edu has it available for anon ftp) which has a new set of functions that allow creation of key-maps, which can be bound to any key. Thus, you create a keymap, bind it to ^[[, and then bind functions and/or macros to the characters in that keymap; ie bind-to-key next-line ^[[B. Remember, though, JOVE puts ansi type terminals in application mode, so that the numeric keyboard can be used for functions if you wish. Versions 4.9 and earlier only supported the arrow keys (bind-to-key ansi-codes ^[O was needed to activate this); with user defineable keymaps. Now, you need to bind you keymap to (for ansi terms) ^[[ and ^[O and then bind previous-line, next-line, forward-char & backward-char to both \^\[\[[A-D] and \^\[O[A-D] (using regular expressions). Then bind the functions you want the numeric keypad to produce to ^[O*, where * is the letter corresponding to that key, such as m for ENTER. Oh, and the functions you bind to the PF keys should also be bound to both ^[[* and ^[O*. -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. "Entropy isn't what it used to be." jhc@Crnlvax5.BITNET --c/o Fortune @ batcomputer.UUCP jhc@Vax5.CIT.Cornell.EDU #include <std_disclaimers.h> cornell!vax1!vax5.cit.cornell.edu!jhc@rochester.UUCP B-7 Upson Hall, Cornell Univ., Ithaca, NY 14853 +1 607 272 4519
michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM (Michael D. Kersenbrock) (03/10/89)
<In article <12524@vaxnix.UUCP> ron@vaxnix.UUCP (Ron Light) writes: <>In article <137@estevax_a.UUCP> lea362@estevax_a.UUCP (Hr Lea Iain ) writes: <>: <>: I have been using and evaluating the JOVE (Ver. 4.9) editor for <>:the last few weeks on a Xenix 386 PC and a Vax DSD4.3 and am quite <>:pleased with the product. <>: <>: 2) On the Vax i have a Wyse wy85 terminal set to emulate a vt100. <>: I have tried to configure the keyboard to my tastes and have <>: been less than successful. I have tried to bind-to-key commands <>: with the numeric keypad and also the four cursor keys. In respect <>: to the cursor keys i have been able to use the Prefix-3 command <>: in my .joverc file at startup. The problem as far as i can tell <>: is that the keypad and cursor keys seem to generate a 3 byte code <>: instead of the normal 2 byte code. Has any one an idea how i can <>: use the keypad, cursor keys and function keys to execute commands ? <> <>Jove will *only* accept two characters for any command, (i.e. ESC letter). <>Since some terminals output "ESC [ A" for an arrow key, jove complains that Not true. I use Jove Version 4.9 (as I type this) , and my .joverc contains: bind-to-key prefix-3 ^[[ bind-to-key execute-named-command ^[[A bind-to-key apropos ^[[B bind-to-key pop-mark ^[[C bind-to-key next-window ^[[D bind-to-key scroll-left ^[[E bind-to-key scroll-right ^[[F . . . etc and that works fine (on a "ansi" Tektronix 4105). -- Mike Kersenbrock Tektronix Microcomputer Development Products michaelk@copper.MDP.TEK.COM Aloha, Oregon
kevin@neptune.AMD.COM (Kevin Tomasek) (05/12/89)
I am having trouble binding the up and down line fucntions to the up and down arrow keys of my vt220 keyboard. The system is a DEC running 4.3 (?) bsd. The problem is when I attempt to rebind these fcns to the arrow keys subsequent use of the arrow keys causes an extra character to be added to the edited text. The fcn works up,down,... but the extra character makes their use .... useless.. I have found a file called emacs.ky/s in the library but don't know how to interpret it. Is their some one out there who has solved a similar problem?? Also, if that wasn't enough, is there a way to use the rest of the vt220 keyboard with emacs ??? Thanks, for any help, in advance... Kevin T.
kjones@talos.UUCP (Kyle Jones) (05/17/89)
In article <926@neptune.AMD.COM> kevin@neptune.AMD.COM (Kevin Tomasek) writes: > I am having trouble binding the up and down line fucntions to the up and > down arrow keys of my vt220 keyboard. The system is a DEC running 4.3 > (?) bsd. I used to battle to make the arrow keys work on the terminals that I used. Several terminals types later I gave up and considered the lesson learned. Save yourself some grief and get used to using C-n and C-p. In fact avoid function keys altogether. You might even want to consider not using the ESC key either (type C-[ instead). Considering where ESC is on a vt200 you'll probably be better off. kyle jones <kjones@talos.UUCP> ...!uunet!talos!kjones "The only good cat is a stir-fried cat." -- Alf