sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) (08/19/89)
(Please respond by mail or reply to comp.editors. I don't read gnu.emacs or comp.emacs.) This is probably an easy RTFM question, but I'm starting to realize that I'm not going through the Emacs-Lisp manual until Christmas, and I'm sick'n'tired of this behaviour NOW. Every once in a while when I'm using this editor it inter- rupts me to tell me "Auto-saving...done", "Garbage-collection... done". I don't want that. Auto-saving seems like a good idea so I like to have it on, but I want it to happen QUIETLY. On top of all: the most common message is the fantastic "Buffer xxxx has shrunk a lot. Not autosaving.", since I mainly use Unix to read and write news and mail which means that I start with a big file from which I cut everything except that I comment. It's really a pain. Particulary on a 75/1200 line. And I would like it to auto-save even if the buffer "has shrunk a lot". Tell me, how do I do. The editor just can't be that !"#$%&/(/) stupid that it is not impossible. I would also like to Emacs stop echoing prefix keys. It's a good idea but it becomes absurd when your using keypad keys as prefix keys as I do. I have my very personal profile, so any Lisp is OK. I'm not interested in source code changes. I'm not the only one on the machine using GNU-Emacs. We're using 18.48 on a SUN-4. -- Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se "Hey poor, you don't have to be Jesus!" - Front 242
jbw@USWEST.COM (Joe Wells) (08/23/89)
Every once in a while when I'm using this editor it inter-
rupts me to tell me "Auto-saving...done", "Garbage-collection...
done". I don't want that. Auto-saving seems like a good idea
so I like to have it on, but I want it to happen QUIETLY.
I disagree with this part. The messages are very helpful for
understanding why GNU Emacs is not responding to the keys you're typing.
On top of all: the most common message is the fantastic
"Buffer xxxx has shrunk a lot. Not autosaving.", since I
mainly use Unix to read and write news and mail which means
that I start with a big file from which I cut everything except
that I comment. It's really a pain. Particulary on a 75/1200 line.
And I would like it to auto-save even if the buffer "has shrunk
a lot". Tell me, how do I do. The editor just can't be that
!"#$%&/(/) stupid that it is not impossible.
I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, this particular behaviour is
in the C code, and is harder for the ordinary user to fix. I suggest that
everyone who dislikes this behaviour should post to gnu.emacs and/or send
mail to RMS. Maybe if enough of us complain it will go away or become an
option.
(If you can't post to gnu.emacs, send mail to info-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu)
I would also like to Emacs stop echoing prefix keys. It's a good
idea but it becomes absurd when your using keypad keys as prefix
keys as I do.
According to the manual:
(setq echo-keystrokes 0)
--
Joe Wells <jbw@uswest.com>
jbw%maverick.uswest.com@boulder.colorado.edujv@mh.nl (Johan Vromans) (08/24/89)
In article <8908221704.AA13619@ketchum.uswest.com> jbw@USWEST.COM (Joe Wells) writes: > I would also like to Emacs stop echoing prefix keys. It's a good > idea but it becomes absurd when your using keypad keys as prefix > keys as I do. > > According to the manual: > > (setq echo-keystrokes 0) Yesterday I upgraded Emacs 18.50 to 18.54 on a ICM32-2, to find that one of the most annoying features of that (possibly broken) 18.50 version had disappeared: keystrokes were echoed immedately instead of after a small pause. Could it be that the original poster has been bitten by this bug? Johan -- Johan Vromans jv@mh.nl via internet backbones Multihouse Automatisering bv uucp: ..!{mcvax,hp4nl}!mh.nl!jv Doesburgweg 7, 2803 PL Gouda, The Netherlands phone/fax: +31 1820 62944/62500 ------------------------ "Arms are made for hugging" -------------------------
erlkonig@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher North-Keys) (08/25/89)
Quoted from Johan Vromans: v> Yesterday I upgraded Emacs 18.50 to 18.54 on a ICM32-2, to find v> that one of the most annoying features of that (possibly broken) 18.50 v> version had disappeared: keystrokes were echoed immedately instead of v> after a small pause. Could it be that the original poster has been v> bitten by this bug? I'm assuming Johan is speaking of keystroke sequences rather than delays at text input. If I'm wrong, don't bother reading the rest. Still here? Fine. This feature prevented those who knew what they had typed from having to look at it anyway. The principle appeared to be to only echo when the user seemed to forget what he what doing, or the correct sequence to accomplish it. The only time I ever see the echo is when I've just miskeyed a sequence and need to see what was entered before continuing. Nice on a slow terminal. I'm still running under 18.52, so I'm saddened to hear that delayed echo may have been omitted. Assuming that this loss is not a bug, has anyone else seen it and if so is there a way to achieve the more conservative delayed effect? ------------------------------------/\---------------------------------------- Seo: Harp[@Mcc.Com] / \/\ ^*^ Christopher North-Keys Tha mi gu trang a'cluich. / \ \ Systems Administrator, MCC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kim@kannel.lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen) (08/26/89)
In article <17596@ut-emx.UUCP> erlkonig@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher North-Keys) writes: From: erlkonig@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher North-Keys) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Keywords: emacs Date: 25 Aug 89 04:42:25 GMT Organization: Packaging/Interconnect, M.C.C. Posted: Thu Aug 24 23:42:25 1989 I'm still running under 18.52, so I'm saddened to hear that delayed echo may have been omitted. Assuming that this loss is not a bug, has anyone else seen it and if so is there a way to achieve the more conservative delayed effect? I'm running GNU Emacs 18.54 and it still has the delayed echo and it works just fine. Kim -- ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ( Kimmo Suominen Electronic Mail on Internet: kim@kannel.lut.fi ) ( "That's what I think!" on Funet: KUULA::KIM ) ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
jv@mh.nl (Johan Vromans) (08/27/89)
In article <17596@ut-emx.UUCP> erlkonig@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher North-Keys) writes: I'm still running under 18.52, so I'm saddened to hear that delayed echo may have been omitted. Don't be afraid - delayed echo is still as it should be. The upgrade eliminated a timing bug due to a broken compiler on a broken machine. Not an emacs bug! Johan -- Johan Vromans jv@mh.nl via internet backbones Multihouse Automatisering bv uucp: ..!{mcvax,hp4nl}!mh.nl!jv Doesburgweg 7, 2803 PL Gouda, The Netherlands phone/fax: +31 1820 62944/62500 ------------------------ "Arms are made for hugging" -------------------------