ed@intermec.UUCP (Ed Jennings x6996) (11/30/89)
Does anyone have a .emacs file for GNU Emacs that makes Emacs look like the PC
based editor BRIEF?
We just received a copy of GNU Emacs here and many of the engineers have been
using BRIEF.
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------dale@NCoast.ORG (Dale Smith) (12/01/89)
In article <1126@intermec.UUCP> ed@intermec.com () writes: > >Does anyone have a .emacs file for GNU Emacs that makes Emacs look like the PC >based editor BRIEF? > >We just received a copy of GNU Emacs here and many of the engineers have been >using BRIEF. > How about some brief macros to emulate emacs? I use brief, but for some strange reason, I would like the editors on all the different machines I use to look and feel the same. Thanks, dale -- Dale P. Smith dale@ncoast.org ncoast!dale@hal.cwru.edu uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!dale
usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (12/01/89)
From article <1126@intermec.UUCP>, by ed@intermec.UUCP (Ed Jennings x6996): > > Does anyone have a .emacs file for GNU Emacs that makes Emacs look like the PC > based editor BRIEF? Some of our DOS people are being dragged kicking and screaming to Xenix. They've been using Brief and miss it. However, one of the reasons they cling to Brief is they know all the keystrokes. Unfortunately, most of those keystrokes involve <alt>, <ctrl>, <shift> and/or function keys. If anything exists (and I doubt it) similar to what you're looking it's bound to be very terminal specific and still won't give them everything they want. However, if I am wrong, someone please send me a copy of the code so I can make it available to my users. j |%|John Lawitzke, Dale Computer Corp., R&D |%|UUCP: uunet!frith!dale1!jhl Work |%| uunet!frith!ipecac!jhl Home Inquiring minds just wondering. |%|Internet: jhl@frith.egr.msu.edu
djm@abyss.eng.umd.edu (David J. MacKenzie) (12/01/89)
In article <5608@cps3xx.UUCP> usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes: >If anything exists (and I doubt it) similar to what you're looking it's >bound to be very terminal specific and still won't give them everything >they want. > >However, if I am wrong, someone please send me a copy of the code so I >can make it available to my users. Earlier this year (or maybe it was late last year) a free Brief clone for Unix called Crisp (an obscure synonym for "brief") appeared in comp.sources.misc. It can be configured for any kind of keyboard and display; I've used it on both a Wyse 50 and a PC running MS-Kermit; it also comes with macros to configure it for the Xenix, 386/ix, and AT&T/Intel 386 Unix consoles. Unfortunately, the author, Paul Fox, lost his net access when he quit his job (he lives in England), and I haven't heard from him since. He was going to work on emulating the newer Brief macro language (the one that's like C) in addition to the Lisp-like older macro language that Crisp currently supports, but I don't know of any way (short of sending Paul snail mail) to get any improvements he's made to Crisp since the comp.sources.misc posting. He was improving it quite intensely at that time, so I suspect he's done more to it since then, as well. -- David J. MacKenzie <djm@eng.umd.edu>
drich@dialogic.UUCP (Dan Rich) (12/02/89)
One of my projects here (among many) has been to write a BRIEF mode for GNU Emacs. Unfortunately, it has gotten buried under my other "more important" projects, but it is in the works. When and if it is finished, I will post it to the net. Also, if anyone else has already done this, or even part of it, please let me know. I can use all of the help I can get.... It was originally going to be for the at386 terminal used by ISC 386/ix, but I have hopes of expanding it to use the termcap/terminfo database. I will warn you however, we have done a large ammount of customizing for our version of BRIEF, and I can't guarantee that any of our key bindings will be the same as yours. -- Dan Rich | ARPA: drich%dialogic@uunet.uu.net UNIX Systems Administrator | UUCP: uunet!dialogic!drich Dialogic Corporation | - Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so. - (201) 334-8450 x213 | Douglas Adams
mark@jhereg.Minnetech.MN.ORG (Mark H. Colburn) (12/02/89)
In article <5608@cps3xx.UUCP> usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes:
+Some of our DOS people are being dragged kicking and screaming to Xenix.
+They've been using Brief and miss it. However, one of the reasons they
+cling to Brief is they know all the keystrokes. Unfortunately, most of
+those keystrokes involve <alt>, <ctrl>, <shift> and/or function keys.
+
+If anything exists (and I doubt it) similar to what you're looking it's
+bound to be very terminal specific and still won't give them everything
+they want.
+
+However, if I am wrong, someone please send me a copy of the code so I
+can make it available to my users.
There are a couple of ways to deal with this. The first is to get a copy
of the "CRISP 1.9" source code. CRISP is a Brief clone that runs under
UNIX. Support for Xenix is included in the package.
You could run emacs and then build the keybindings that you want. I
wouldn't think that it would be too tough, but...
There is also a macro package available for Brief that maps the brief
keyboard into one that looks a lot like the GNU Emacs keyboard. This would
allow your programmers to have a single interface to an editor, using Brief
on the PCS or EMACS on Xenix.
The macro package is available from the UnderWare Bulliten board. Call
your Brief distributor for more details or call UnderWare directly. The
number is in the manual.
I hope that this helps you out...
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Mark H. Colburn mark@Minnetech.MN.ORG
Open Systems Architects, Inc.