[comp.emacs] Why I hate Emacs

tomt@maui.coral.com (Tom Tulinsky) (12/11/90)

I'm typing a letter in Mail mode.  I try to do C-x C-n to set a goal
column.  Now I'm getting beeps and my command line says `
   "Please type y, n, or space"
Why?  What are the consequences?  I type space. It seemed safest.  The
letter disappears.

This happened in Epoch, although it would probably be the same in Emacs.

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bashford@scripps.edu (Don Bashford) (12/13/90)

In article <9012111501.AA09140@maui.coral.com> tomt@maui.coral.com (Tom Tulinsky) writes:
>
>I'm typing a letter in Mail mode.  I try to do C-x C-n to set a goal
>column.  Now I'm getting beeps and my command line says `
>   "Please type y, n, or space"
>Why?  What are the consequences?  I type space. It seemed safest.  The
>letter disappears.
>
>This happened in Epoch, although it would probably be the same in Emacs.
>
> Coral
>     * **	Tom Tulinsky                508 460-6010
>  *  **		Coral Network Corporation   fax 508 481-6258
>*  ** 		734 Forest St               net: tomt@coral.com
> ***		   Marlboro, MA 01752		
>  **		   U S A
>*********	
>NETWORKS	


Nope, not in my emacs-18.55 on a Sparc.  When I type C-x n (which
is what I suspect you did rather than C-x C-n) I get a help window
which says:

  You have typed C-x n, invoking disabled command narrow-to-region:
  Restrict editing in this buffer to the current region.
  The rest of the text becomes temporarily invisible and untouchable
  but is not deleted; if you save the buffer in a file, the invisible
  text is included in the file.  C-x w makes all visible again.


  You can now type
  Space to try the command just this once,
        but leave it disabled,
  Y to try it and enable it (no questions if you use it again),
  N to do nothing (command remains disabled).

and the minibuffer says, "Please type y, n, or space"

So, you see, your letter didn't really get clobbered, you
could have got it back by typing C-x w.  Somehow, I expect
you will still hate emacs, but for Epoch fans, this sounds
like an Epoch-bug worth looking into.

Cheers,
Don Bashford

bjaspan@ATHENA.MIT.EDU ("Barr3y Jaspan") (12/16/90)

   [8905]  daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Bug_GNU_Emacs 12/15/90 12:56 (27 lines)
   Date: 12 Dec 90 21:55:09 GMT
   From: augean!sibyl!ian@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au  (Ian Dall)

   In article <1990Dec11.173151.5117@athena.mit.edu> bjaspan@athena.mit.edu 
   (Barr3y Jaspan) writes:
   -You almost certainly typed "C-x n" instead, and emacs almost certainly
   -showed you the following message:
   -
   -"You have typed C-x n, invoking the disabled command narrow-to-region.:

   But this *does* raise the issue of seeing all the prompt at once. I
   know the minibuffer does horizontal scrolling, [ ... ]

In the version of emacs we are using (18.54), it splits puts the "You
have typed FOOBAR, invoking the disabled command ..." message in a
different window, splitting the current window if necessary.  So the
only time you wouldn't see at least a good portion of the message
would be if you already had several windows on the screen, and all of
them were too small to display more than a line or two.  If that's
the case, however, you probably know enough about emacs to handle the
situation.  :-)

Barr3y

worley@compass.com (Dale Worley) (12/18/90)

   I'm typing a letter in Mail mode.  I try to do C-x C-n to set a goal
   column.  Now I'm getting beeps and my command line says:
       "Please type y, n, or space"

Well, first you didn't check (C-h l) to see what you actually typed,
rather than what you thought you typed, otherwise you'd have
discovered that you typed C-x n rather than C-x C-n.  Next time Emacs
does something weird, use C-h l and figure out what you really did.

Dale Worley		Compass, Inc.			worley@compass.com
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Reality is what you can get away with.