aaa@ihlpm.ATT.COM (Adams) (07/11/87)
A friend of mine has a problem with microemacs 3.8 and 3.8i. When
he installs it on a vax 11/780 and attempts to use it with a televideo
terminal, spaces are inserted in the text. But, after doing a screen
refresh the spaces are no longer there. An example, when typing,
the text comes out l i k e t h i s. But after a screen refresh,
the text is like this. This problem only occurs on televideo
terminals. Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so, could
you please respond by e-mail.
Anthony A. Adams E-MAIL : {anywhere}!ihnp4!ihlpm!aaa
PHONE : (312) 979-2905
US-MAIL: AT&T Bell Laboratories
IH 4B-327
Naperville-Wheaton Rd
Naperville, IL 60566aaa@ihlpm.ATT.COM (Adams) (07/11/87)
Does anyone know how to do key bindings for a vt100? I have microemacs
3.8i and I cannot get the key bindings to work properly with a
vt100. Please respond by e-mail.
Thanks in advance
Anthony A. Adams E-MAIL : {anywhere}!ihnp4!ihlpm!aaa
PHONE : (312) 979-2905
US-MAIL: AT&T Bell Laboratories
IH 4B-327
Naperville-Wheaton Rd
Naperville, IL 60566george@rebel.UUCP (George M. Sipe) (07/12/87)
In article <1249@ihlpm.ATT.COM> aaa@ihlpm.ATT.COM (Adams) writes: >A friend of mine has a problem with microemacs 3.8 and 3.8i. When >he installs it on a vax 11/780 and attempts to use it with a televideo >terminal, spaces are inserted in the text. But, after doing a screen >refresh the spaces are no longer there. An example, when typing, >the text comes out l i k e t h i s. But after a screen refresh, >the text is like this. This problem only occurs on televideo >terminals. Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so, could >you please respond by e-mail. As distributed, MicroEMACS does not support terminals which have embedded attributes. That is the case with many TeleVideo terminals. The symptoms you have observed result from this. The fix: use my recently posted 'standout' patches. If you missed them, send me mail and I'll mail them to you. With the patches installed, not only will MicroEMACS work on embedded attribute terminals, but it will work better on ALL terminals (it also has a bug, whereby it sets the cursor position after each keystroke even when this is not necessary). -- George M. Sipe, Phone: (404) 662-1533 Tolerant Systems, 6961 Peachtree Industrial, Norcross, GA 30071 UUCP: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ihnp4,linus,rutgers,seismo}!gatech!rebel!george
rod@cpocd2.UUCP (Rod Rebello) (07/13/87)
In article <1250@ihlpm.ATT.COM> aaa@ihlpm.ATT.COM (Adams) writes: >Does anyone know how to do key bindings for a vt100? I have microemacs >3.8i and I cannot get the key bindings to work properly with a >vt100. Please respond by e-mail. > I would also like to know how to do this. Rod Rebello ...!intelca!mipos3!cpocd2!rod
mike@ivory.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Michael Lodman) (07/15/87)
In article <782@cpocd2.UUCP> rod@cpocd2.UUCP (Rod Rebello) writes: >In article <1250@ihlpm.ATT.COM> aaa@ihlpm.ATT.COM (Adams) writes: >>Does anyone know how to do key bindings for a vt100? I have microemacs >>3.8i and I cannot get the key bindings to work properly with a >>vt100. Please respond by e-mail. >> > >I would also like to know how to do this. > I would like to know how also. Could someone reply by email or to the net? Michael Lodman Advanced Development E & M San Diego
jimb@tekigm2.TEK.COM (Jim Boland) (07/17/87)
In article <149@ivory.SanDiego.NCR.COM> mike@ivory.UUCP (Michael Lodman) writes: >>In article <1250@ihlpm.ATT.COM> aaa@ihlpm.ATT.COM (Adams) writes: >>>Does anyone know how to do key bindings for a vt100? I have microemacs >>>3.8i and I cannot get the key bindings to work properly with a >>>vt100. >I would like to know how also. Could someone reply by email or to the >net? Back before Dan Lawrence took over microemacs and it was just a few files, I rewrote getkey and added a few procedures to main.c I wanted microemacs to work with a VT100 and to emulate EDT. It worked fine. Unfortunately, I no longer have it on disk although I do have a hard copy printout. Basically, The problem comes from recognizing the keypad. The procedures for acquiring keystrokes involves getting only control characters, single characters, and Meta characters. If Microemacs sees the metacode, it goes back and gets the next character. You need to make it go back once more for the VT100 keypad. VT100 keystrokes are in the sequence "ESC-O-xx" where xx is the actual key. ME only will see the meta then the O. So, if you have a vt100, you need to go further. You also want to remove the case insensitivity for Control characters. Also, you need to build a procedure that will go back for another keystroke when the PF1 (GOLD) key is hit. It can be done but you need to do some modifying of various files. Another way to start now would be to take vt52.c and modify it, making a vt100.c file. You would then have to go through all the .c and .h files and modify them accordingly wherever they address vt52. I did the modifications three years ago because I needed a decent editor to use under the Uniflex operating system. Fortunately, I did not require usage of that for the last year and hence never upgraded that version of microemacs when Dan took it over. I could probably copy the pertinent portions of my listings and USmail them to interested parties if you respond by e-mail. jim boland tektronix!tekigm2!jimb
phil@sci.UUCP (Phil Kaufman) (07/19/87)
Various folks have expressed an interest in vt100 keypad and other special keys for microemacs. I have a set of changes to microemacs 3.8 that do just this. However, as Lawrence says that 3.9 will be out soon, I'd prefer to work the fixes into the new version before distributing unless there is huge demand asap.
bh0r@CLUTX.CLARKSON.EDU (Rob Logan) (07/20/87)
If Lawrence included the Z100 stuff I sent him in MicroEmacs 3.9 the Zenith 100 supports the keypad. Rob bh0r@clutx.clarkson.edu
rh@cs.paisley.ac.uk (Robert Hamilton) (07/22/87)
In article <782@cpocd2.UUCP> rod@cpocd2.UUCP (Rod Rebello) writes: >In article <1250@ihlpm.ATT.COM> aaa@ihlpm.ATT.COM (Adams) writes: >>Does anyone know how to do key bindings for a vt100? I have microemacs >>3.8i and I cannot get the key bindings to work properly with a >>vt100. Please respond by e-mail. >> I hacked this for a BSD4.3 system, using tcap.c I don't have the origonal files so no diff, but these should give the idea... You get the arrow keys,Function keys and numeric keypad bound to FN* stuff which you can use in your .emacsrc . In tcap.c get KU,KD etc from tgetstr. and insert these functions: (call arrowkeys fom main) ===============tcap.c==== arrowkeys() /* bind arrow keys if string is 2 or 1 chars */ /* added rh@paisley.cs */ { if (KU==NULL) return; if (strlen(KU)<3) { /* ok doit but not for the ansis which are set up by default we hope */ arrowbind(forwline,KD); arrowbind(backchar,KL); arrowbind(backline,KU); arrowbind(forwchar,KR); } } arrowbind(func,keys) int (*func)(); char *keys; { int c=0; int d=0; register KEYTAB *ktp; int found; ktp= &keytab[0]; found= FALSE; /* first translate keys into c */ if (strlen(keys)==1) d= *keys; else if (keys[0]== 0x1b) /* escape prefix */ {c=META; d=keys[1];} else if (keys[0]=='\030') { c==CTLX; d=keys[1];} /*ctlx prefix*/ if (d>=0x00 && d<=0x1F) d = CTRL | (d+'@'); /* ctl prefix on last char */ c |= d; while (ktp->k_fp != NULL) { if (ktp->k_code == c) { found = TRUE; break; } ++ktp; } if (found) ktp->k_fp = func; else { if (ktp >= &keytab[NBINDS]) { mlwrite("Binding table FULL!"); return(FALSE); } ktp->k_code = c; /* add keycode */ ktp->k_fp = func; /* and the function pointer */ ++ktp; /* and make sure the next is null */ ktp->k_code = 0; ktp->k_fp = NULL; } return(TRUE); } and in input.c change make this change to getcmd: ==============input.c===== getcmd() { int c; /* fetched keystroke */ /* get initial character */ c = get1key(); #if TERMCAP /* hack to translate ansi arrow keys esc-o-[a-d] to FN and function keys escop-s to spec5-8 added rh@paisley.cs */ if (c == metac) { int d=get1key(); if (d=='[') {/*mapping arrow keys;*/ if (islower(d)) d ^=DIFCASE; d=get1key(); return(SPEC | d); } if (d=='O') {d=get1key(); return(SPEC |d); } else { if (islower(d)) d ^=DIFCASE; return(META | d); } } #else /* process META prefix */ if (c == metac) { c = get1key(); if (islower(c)) /* Force to upper */ c ^= DIFCASE; if (c>=0x00 && c<=0x1F) /* control key */ c = CTRL | (c+'@'); return(META | c); } #endif /* process CTLX prefix */ if (c == ctlxc) { c = get1key(); if (c>='a' && c<='z') /* Force to upper */ c -= 0x20; if (c>=0x00 && c<=0x1F) /* control key */ c = CTRL | (c+'@'); return(CTLX | c); } /* otherwise, just return it */ return(c); } -- JANET: rh@uk.ac.paisley.cs | Computing Science EMAIL: rh@cs.paisley.ac.uk | Paisley College UUCP: ...!seismo!mcvax!ukc!paisley!rh | High St., Paisley Phone: +44 41 887 1241 Ext. 219 | Scotland , PA12BE
greg@xios.XIOS.UUCP (Greg Franks) (07/27/87)
>>In article <1250@ihlpm.ATT.COM> aaa@ihlpm.ATT.COM (Adams) writes: >>>Does anyone know how to do key bindings for a vt100? I have microemacs >>>3.8i and I cannot get the key bindings to work properly with a >>>vt100. >I would like to know how also. Could someone reply by email or to the >net? The trick we use here is a SMOP. If you have curses, you can wedge in a terminfo handler (start from the tcap.c file and hack away). Turn the keypad on. Curses will then map the escape sequences found in the terminfo database into stuff like 0400 - 0533. If the character falls into that range, zap off the excess bits and OR in the FUNCTION bit. You can then bind the keypad in as FNA, FN^A etc etc etc. We also have terminals that have a META key so we map them too. tinfogetc() { register int c; c = wgetch( stdscr ); if ( 0x0080 <= c && c < 0x0100 ) { c &= 0x7f; /* Mask off crap */ c = toupper( c ); if ( 0x00 <= c && c <= 0x1f ) c |= CTRL | 0x0040; c |= META; /* note meta prefix */ } else if ( 0x0101 <= c && c <= 0x0FFF ) { c &= 0x7f; /* Mask off crap. */ /* Curses has returned a special function key. */ /* Zap off the high bit and OR in SPECIAL */ /* designation. Control characters are have */ /* both the SPECIAL and CONTROL designators set */ if ( 0x00 <= c && c <= 0x1f ) c |= CTRL | 0x0040; c |= SPEC; } return( c ); } We also permit remap of the search terminator. Meta is on PF1, and the search terminator is on <ENTER>. If there is enough interest, I'll post the whole file (and diffs). *** Please note that I am using uemacs 3.8i on a SYS V machine *** -- Greg Franks XIOS Systems Corporation, 1600 Carling Avenue, (613) 725-5411 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1Z 8R8 seismo!mnetor!dciem!nrcaer!xios!greg "Vermont ain't flat!"
phil@sci.UUCP (Phil Kaufman) (11/21/87)
We missed parts 1 thru 7 of emacs 3.9 here. Could someone please repost. Also, does anyone know if the posted uemacs is the original 3.9 or the newest 3.9e?
DEDOUREK@UNB.BITNET (11/24/87)
Are the recently posted sources of micro emacs (posted to comp.sources.misc I believe) archived at any of the LISTSERV sites on BITNET? John DeDourek Professor of Computer Science School of Computer Science University of New Brunswick P.O. Box 4400 Fredericton, New Brunswick, CANADA E3B 5A3 (506) 453-4566 Electronic mail: DEDOUREK@UNBMVS1.BITNET -- BITNET/NETNORTH
THOMAS_KENTON_DONALDSON@cup.portal.com (12/22/87)
A related question. I'm looking for a port of microemacs to SCO Xenix. I want a compile-link-and-go version, don't want to port it unless necessary. Can anyone out there help?
hirayama@suvax1.UUCP (Pat Hirayama) (02/17/88)
Hello world! I was wondering if anyone out there had: (a) Source for MicroEMACS. As I understand it, it is in C. (b) Documentation for MicroEMACS. And would be willing to share it with me? Please e-mail me BEFORE you send it (I don't think that sending along the same thing many times across UUCP lines would make the people who pay for these links very happy). Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pat Hirayama UUCP: ...!uw-entropy!dataio!suvax1!hirayama Seattle University USNail: 28625-47th Pl S, Auburn, WA 98001-1140 Class of 1988 Phone: (206) 946-0833 ". . . the starships of the Federation are the physical, tangible manifestations of humanity's stubborn insistence that life does indeed mean something." Spock Final Frontier ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hirayama@suvax1.UUCP (Pat Hirayama) (02/24/88)
Hello world! A couple of weeks ago I requested the sources and documentation for MicroEmacs 3.9e. I wish to thank all of you who responded, especially tim@pilchuck who sent them over here via uucp. As such, I am posting this article to let all of you know that I no longer have any need for the sources requested, since I now have them. Thanks again, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pat Hirayama UUCP: ...!uw-entropy!dataio!suvax1!hirayama Seattle University USNail: 28625-47th Pl S, Auburn, WA 98001-1140 Class of 1988 Phone: (206) 946-0833 ". . . the starships of the Federation are the physical, tangible manifestations of humanity's stubborn insistence that life does indeed mean something." Spock Final Frontier ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
jmleonar@CRDEC-VAX2.ARPA (jle) (02/26/88)
To whom...
Where can I find a copy of the latest MicroEMACS (Version 3.9e?) that can
be obtained by anonymous FTP?
Thanks in advance!
Joe Leonard
<jmleonar@crdec.arpa>V999PJ9W@UBVMS.BITNET (Malaysian) (06/15/88)
Hello, Does anybody knows where can I get a copy of MicroEmacs source code? Thank you Sher C. Foon-Fang Bitnet: V999PJ9W@UBVMS Internet: V999PJ9W.UBVMSA.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
mdb@silvlis.COM (Mark D. Baushke) (06/18/88)
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 88 15:53 EST > From: Malaysian <sun!mitvma.mit.edu!V999PJ9W%UBVMS.BITNET> > Subject: MicroEmacs > To: info-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu > X-Vms-To: IN%"info-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu" > > Hello, > Does anybody knows where can I get a copy of MicroEmacs source code? > > Thank you > > Sher C. Foon-Fang > > Bitnet: V999PJ9W@UBVMS > Internet: V999PJ9W.UBVMSA.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Try sending a mail message to info-server@sh.cs.net with the following message body: Request: mod.sources Topic: micrognu Request: end The info-server will mail you the source code in 11 shar files. For more information on the info-server send a message body: Request: mod.sources Topic: index Request: info Topic: help Request: end Enjoy! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark D. Baushke Internet: mdb%silvlis.com@sun.com Silvar-Lisco, Inc. Nameservers: mdb@silvlis.com 1080 Marsh Road Usenet: {pyramid,sun}!silvlis!mdb Menlo Park, CA 94025-1053 Telephone: +1 415 853-6411 / +1 415 969-8328
JPLILER@SIMTEL20.ARPA (John R. Pliler) (06/18/88)
You can obtain the sources for MicroEmacs 3.9e at j.cc.purdue.edu in the pub directory. The file is microemacs.tar.Z (compressed tar format) and is around 380K. You can get it thru anonymous ftp.. John -------
othar@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Othar Hansson) (09/03/88)
I need a free, distributable Emacs-like editor for IBM PCs, which has a Lisp
mode with reasonable features. I need this for a class that I'm teaching soon.
Do any of {jove,micrognu,microemacs,freemacs} have a Lisp mode? Or are their
macro languages close enough to GNU that I can port/write one myself in two
weeks? Thanks in advance.
--
Othar Hansson
( othar@cs.ucla.edu
..!{ucbvax|rutgers}!ucla-cs!othar )rogers@orion.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Brynn Rogers) (01/05/89)
I have downloaded MicroEMACS ver 3.9 from the simtel archive,
but It makes me hit ESC then X for M-X.
I would much rather hit the ALT and X at the same time, like on unix
(on a SUN the LEFT and RIGHT keys are the same as the ALT key)
I have seen 4 different versions of EMACS for the PC, and I want to
settle with one. microEMACS looks like the best to me.
If someone can tell me how to fix the alt key or tell me of a better
emacs for IBM PC compatables, I would greatly appriciate it.
'Seek out new life and civilizations' | Brynn Rogers Honeywell S&RC
| Internet: rogers@src.honeywell.com
"Honey, come see what I | UUCP: rogers@srcsip.uucp
found in the refrigerator!" | !: {umn-cs,ems,bthpyb}!srcsip!rogersusenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (01/05/89)
in article <14312@srcsip.UUCP>, rogers@orion.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Brynn Rogers) says: > Summary: how do I get to use the alt key for the meta key > References: > > I have downloaded MicroEMACS ver 3.9 from the simtel archive, > but It makes me hit ESC then X for M-X. > I would much rather hit the ALT and X at the same time, like on unix > (on a SUN the LEFT and RIGHT keys are the same as the ALT key) Without some major modifications to the source it's a no go. The ALT key doesn't generate an ASCII character input whereas ESC does. Any key that sends in an character to the machine could be used for META, but ALT is just a shift key on a PC. MicroEMACS is the best Emacs I've seen other than GNU. The great thing about MicroEMACS is that you can have the same editor running both at home and at work. John H. Lawitzke UUCP: ...rutgers!mailrus!frith!fciiho!jhl Michigan Farm Bureau ...decvax!purdue!mailrus!frith!fciiho!jhl Insurance Group ...uunet!frith!jhl "My other computer is an IBM RT Model 135"
nwd@j.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Lawrence) (01/06/89)
In article <14312@srcsip.UUCP> rogers@orion.UUCP (Brynn Rogers) writes: >I have downloaded MicroEMACS ver 3.9 from the simtel archive, >but It makes me hit ESC then X for M-X. >I would much rather hit the ALT and X at the same time, like on unix >(on a SUN the LEFT and RIGHT keys are the same as the ALT key) > As has been explained here before... the IBM-PC keyboard with the ALT key does not map all the various shift and control combinations. Thus it is not possible to use the ALT key as a straight META key like on the terminals where such a key is provided. IE the ALT key overides both the shift key and the control key so the BIOS can not tell the difference between Alt-A and Alt-a and Alt-^A. This makes this a not usefull shoice for meta. It would be possible, on a TRUE BLUE to go all the way down to the hardware to impliment this, but this would make it fail on most other MSDOS machines, and is really contrary to the portibility of MicroEMACS as a whole. <other praise deleted....> >'Seek out new life and civilizations' | Brynn Rogers Honeywell S&RC > | Internet: rogers@src.honeywell.com > "Honey, come see what I | UUCP: rogers@srcsip.uucp > found in the refrigerator!" | !: {umn-cs,ems,bthpyb}!srcsip!rogers Daniel Lawrence (317) 742-5153 nwd@j.cc.purdue.edu The Programmer's Room Fido 1:201/10 (317) 742-5533
shurr@cbnews.ATT.COM (Larry A. Shurr) (01/06/89)
In article <14312@srcsip.UUCP> rogers@orion.UUCP (Brynn Rogers) writes: >I have downloaded MicroEMACS ver 3.9 from the simtel archive, >but It makes me hit ESC then X for M-X. >I would much rather hit the ALT and X at the same time, like on unix >(on a SUN the LEFT and RIGHT keys are the same as the ALT key) >If someone can tell me how to fix the alt key or tell me of a better >emacs for IBM PC compatables, I would greatly appriciate it. Personally, I think that MicroEMACS is the best PC emacs (among the freebies, at least - I have never even tried any of the pay-for PC emacses (emacsi?), one of these MAY be better - they had better be at those prices). NOTE: by way of disclaimer, waiver, and cowardice in the face of an overwhelming flame threat, I want to say that I regard editor preference as a personal matter and that there is no need for us to agree on this issue or for one or the other of us to be 'right' and the other 'wrong'. If anyone out there has anything useful or helpful to say, by all means, please send mail. I will not, however, debate the issue and all flames will be sent down the cloaca. To accomplish something similar to what you want, I have simply used a series of "bind-to-key" commands in my emacs.rc file. For example, to bind ALT-X to behave the same as Meta-X, I use the command "bind-to-key execute-named-command FN-" in emacs.rc. Similarly, I bind ALT-O to behave the same as Meta-O using "bind-to-key next-window FN^X". The FN notation is regrettably rather cumbersome. I find out what FN to use by binding the key interactively first since emacs displays the complete command including the appropriate FN code. Sometimes the result is a non-keyboard character such as an "a-umlaut". For these, you have to look up the decimal code for that character and then press- and-hold ALT while you enter the code as three decimal digits USING THE NUMERIC KEYPAD KEYS when you enter the bind-to-key command into your emacs.rc file using your editor (MicroEMACS, of course). This is NOT a generalized solution in which all ALT-<key> combinations are automatically interpreted as Meta-<key>. To accomplish that, you would have to modify the keyboard input routine. I was considering doing this, but I found that the "bind-to-key approach" was adequate for my purposes. regards, Larry -- Signed: Larry A. Shurr (att!cbnews!cbema!shurr or osu-cis!apr!las) Notice: 'R'eply probably won't reach me - try above addresses, OK? Thanks. Clever signature, Wonderful wit, Outdo the others, Be a big hit! - Burma Shave (With apologies to the real thing. Above represents my views only.)
wrp@biochsn.acc.virginia.edu (William R. Pearson) (01/06/89)
]> Summary: how do I get to use the alt key for the meta key ]> References: ]> I have downloaded MicroEMACS ver 3.9 from the simtel archive, ]> but It makes me hit ESC then X for M-X. ]> I would much rather hit the ALT and X at the same time, like on unix ]> (on a SUN the LEFT and RIGHT keys are the same as the ALT key) ] ]MicroEMACS is the best Emacs I've seen other than GNU. The great thing ]about MicroEMACS is that you can have the same editor running both at ]home and at work. For about $195, you can get Epsilon from Lugaru Software Pittsburg PA, (available for MS-DOS, Xenix, Microport SysV). It lets you use the ALT- key as a meta key, does better C-S incremental search, and is a great EMACS implementation. It also lets you run a DOS job in a buffer as a sub-shell. I would say that it is better than GNU, because it consumes so much less resources, and runs on smaller machines. Bill Pearson wrp@virginia.EDU, .BITNET, .UUCP
schwartz@dinl.uucp (Michael Schwartz) (01/06/89)
In article <14312@srcsip.UUCP>, rogers@orion.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Brynn Rogers) writes: > I have downloaded MicroEMACS ver 3.9 from the simtel archive, > but It makes me hit ESC then X for M-X. > I would much rather hit the ALT and X at the same time, like on unix I simply took the time to bind all the USEFUL meta definitions in the .rc file. This took awhile, but LOOKS like the ALT key is doing the right thing. Michael Schwartz ncar!dinl!schwartz -- Michael Schwartz ncar!dinl!schwartz MSchwartz@Dockmaster.ARPA
romkey@asylum.sf.ca.us (John Romkey) (01/06/89)
In article <975@hudson.acc.virginia.edu> wrp@biochsn.acc.Virginia.EDU (William R. Pearson) writes: > For about $195, you can get Epsilon from Lugaru Software >Pittsburg PA, (available for MS-DOS, Xenix, Microport SysV). I second that recommendation. GNU Emacs is certainly my favorite version of Emacs, but Epsilon is my second favorite. Working under MS-DOS would be much more unpleasant if it weren't for Epsilon. I've found it to be far superior to all other Emacses that I've used other than GNU. -- - john romkey romkey@asylum.uucp romkey@xx.lcs.mit.edu romkey@asylum.sf.ca.us "Maybe Acid would help."
dmnhieu@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Duy-Minh NHIEU) (01/07/89)
I have a version of microEmacs for the IBM-PC also, however I am used to the GNU emacs on the mainframe in university (on Unix). Does anyone know if there is such a GNU-command and style like editor for the IBM-PC? I have heard that there are several version of emacs for PCs, however I have only seen one so far the microEmacs.
vail@tegra.UUCP (Johnathan Vail) (01/07/89)
~in article <14312@srcsip.UUCP>, rogers@orion.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Brynn Rogers) says: ~> Summary: how do I get to use the alt key for the meta key ~> References: ~> ~> I have downloaded MicroEMACS ver 3.9 from the simtel archive, ~> but It makes me hit ESC then X for M-X. ~> I would much rather hit the ALT and X at the same time, like on unix ~> (on a SUN the LEFT and RIGHT keys are the same as the ALT key) ~ ~Without some major modifications to the source it's a no go. The ALT key ~doesn't generate an ASCII character input whereas ESC does. Any key that ~sends in an character to the machine could be used for META, but ALT is ~just a shift key on a PC. ~ There are other great (I feel better) emacs editors for the PC. There is Russ's Freemacs and then there is JOVE. BOTH OF THESE will handle meta keys properly (ie use the ALT key) however the version of JOVE I use doesn't like to use it with numbers. There is some advantage to using excatly the same editor in different places, but I wouldn't trade ease of use for it. I use GNU on the sun at work and Freemacs at home. Both are customized look more like each other (the major difference now is the way the mice work). Both are written to take advantage of the machine they are on (Freemacs is FAST on the screen). ___________________ | | Johnathan (with an h) O Vail | My other Emacs is | tegra!vail@ulowell.edu | Freemacs | (508) 663-7435 |___________________| N1DXG
dale@ldgo.columbia.edu (dale chayes) (02/27/89)
I'm trying to get Micro-Emacs (version 3.7) to play. This version appears to have been compiled for an IBMPC without color. When I start it up, it reads the emacs.rc file, and bind keys etc. The mini-buffer displays properly, but despite my efforts thus far, I have not been able to see anything on the rest of the screen. As far as I can tell, it works just fine (unless one happens to find it necessary to SEE what your editing!) I've tried running it on: Compaq Portable II, Compaq Portable III, Toshiba-1200 and a Compaq-286 Deskpro with a VGA display, and it behaves the same on all three, so I suspect that its not a display problem, but if I knew, I'd not be posting the plea. Unless its of general interest, please reply via mail.. Thanks in advance, Dale -- Dale Chayes Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory of Columbia University Route 9W, Palisades, N.Y. 10964 dale@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu voice: (914) 359-2900 extension 434 fax: (914) 359-6817
tswenson@daitc.daitc.mil (Timothy Swenson) (07/07/89)
I have version 3.8b of microEMACS (QL version dated 26 Jun 88). The disk that I recieved it on had some problems. Most of the reference manual is unreadable (bad sector or something). Does anybody have a copy of the reference manual they could send me. I am new to Emacs and need all the manuals that I can get. Another thing, I noticed that my copy of the code has code for QL's, Apple, Unix, MS-DOS, CP/M, etc. Does every copy of microEmacs have the source for all of these computers? It's nice to know that a QL is finally in the same ranks as the above computers. Thanks in advance. Tim Swenson tswenson@daitc.mil * Still Alive with Uncle Clive *
adyer@wyse.wyse.com (Andrew Dyer x2446) (10/04/89)
I am running MicroEmacs version 3.10 on a PC. I am also running PC-NFS
from Sun. I would like to have MicroEmacs scan the file being edited
and use the correct end of line sequence - either CR-LF or LF. As an alternative
I would like to scan the drive letter of the file being edited, and use that
to decide which sequence to use. I don't have sources or ftp access, so it is
difficult to fix this on my own. Any help is appreciated.
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Andrew Dyer, 3475 N. First St., San Jose, CA 95134djo@giskard.Eng.Sun.COM (Daniel O'Leary) (07/14/90)
I am interested in hacking up an editor to have groupware functionality and need a public domain emacs. I have heard there is such an editor called "micro emacs". Is this true? If so, does anyone know how I can get a copy of it? Thanks in advance for any responses. Dan O'Leary
880716a@aucs.uucp (Dave Astels) (07/16/90)
In article <138875@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> djo@giskard.Eng.Sun.COM (Daniel O'Leary) writes: >I am interested in hacking up an editor to have groupware >functionality and need a public domain emacs. I have heard >there is such an editor called "micro emacs". Is this true? Yes. I use MicroEmacs both at home on PC (8088, MS-DOS), and at work on a Sun 4 (SPARC, SunOS 4.1). It works great. There is a extension language. While not at all LISP like, it does the job. >If so, does anyone know how I can get a copy of it? I believe I got my copy via FTP from durer.cme.nist.gov -- "I liked him better before he died" - McCoy, ST V =============================================================================== Dave Astels | Internet: 880716a@AcadiaU.CA PO Box 835, Wolfville, | Bitnet: 880716a@Acadia
probert@fires1 (08/24/90)
I am looking for the latest and greatest version of uEmacs. I have both
3.8l (DOS,VMS) and 3.9e (UNIX). I would like to find a DOS version that
supports the new VGA text modes 50x80 and 40x132, etc.
Thanks.
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Does anybody have the original distribution for versions 3.8l and 3.9e,
I am finding problems with 3.10e. I can ftp from most sites.
Thanks.
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RESEARCH LABS | Dearborn, MI 48121-2053 |nbeck@weber.ucsd.edu (Nathaniel Beck) (04/15/91)
Hi I have been reading comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc and posted a question there about editors that work in both dos and un*x environments. Several people have suggested I look at microemacs. I fear that I know nothing about emacs. Can someone point me to a source for microemacs. Is it distributed like FSF stuff or is it a commercial product. If the latter, could someone point me to a vendor? if the former, how do I obtain. Sorry for taking up bandwidth for such a primitive question. Thanks in advance Neal Beck -- Neal Beck Dept of Politcal Science, UCSD beck@ucsd.edu Dislaimer: The Regents pay me (a bit!) to distribute my opinions.
pm2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Paul Ma) (04/26/91)
Hi, I am trying to use microemacs on a mainframe through an IBM PC emulating vt52 terminal. Can somebody tell me what are the keys for controlling the cursors and other basic functions (like saving files and exiting)? I am using an enhanced 101 keys keyboard and my computer can emulate other terminals as well (like vt102). Please reply by e-mail directly to pm2@doc.ic.ac.uk This is pretty urgent, so please reply as soon as you can if you know the answers. Thanks in advance! Paul.
chip@osh3.OSHA.GOV (Chip Yamasaki) (04/28/91)
In <1991Apr26.125332.9140@doc.ic.ac.uk> pm2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Paul Ma) writes: >I am trying to use microemacs on a mainframe through an IBM PC emulating >vt52 terminal. Can somebody tell me what are the keys for controlling the >cursors and other basic functions (like saving files and exiting)? Ok, here goes. . . Remember that for the following keystrokes M-<key> means first the Meta key (normally Esc) then <key>, while ^<key> means the Ctrl key and <key> simultaneously. Forward char ^F Back char ^B Next line ^N Previous line ^P Up page ^Z Down page ^V Save file ^X^S Exit ^X^C This should let you do some very basic stuff. The ^S in save file may give you trouble if you are using XON-XOFF flow control. These keys are dependant on the default key bindings which may be different on your system. You really need to look at the .emacsrc (or equiv) file on your system to find out if they have been changed. You can also find out how the F-Keys are bound through this file. You will probably have more luck with the vt102 emulation than with vt52. You'll also need the docs. In fact, you should ask your sys admin or the person who installed the program why you don't have them. For a question like this you should ALWAYS check first at you own site because there must be someone there who knows how these things have been customized for your system. This way the information you get will be more accurate and you will get it quicker. -- -- Charles "Chip" Yamasaki chip@oshcomm.osha.gov
ecwu61@castle.ed.ac.uk (R Renwick) (05/17/91)
Can anyone tell me an ftp site where I can get Micro emacs 3.10 or 3.11 beta? Thanks, Rik