[comp.bugs.2bsd] 2bsd for basement pdp-11/73??

rickr@virtech.uucp (Rick Rodman) (07/02/90)

I was told to look here for information on obtaining a binary of 2bsd for
my PDP-11/73.

I rescued the little critter from a whole bunch of stuff that was destined to
be sold to a junk dealer.  The junkman ended up with two 11/34s and an 11/23,
plus several cartridge disk drives (RL01s?) and a couple of Interdata 7/32s.
I chose the 11/73 to rescue since (a) it was cute, looked like a Microvax and
(b) it was lightweight enough that I could *roll* it.

Anyhow, it came with RSX-11M and Basic Plus 2.  It has an RD53 and a TK50.

I have a price of $2000 from a couple of companies for unix for the thing
and even at that price they don't want to sell it because I don't have
9-track.  At that price I don't want to buy it either, since it's absurd.
Besides I'm just a lone programmer with a cute machine in his basement
(cue Sanford & Son theme).

Another common reply, by the way, has been "assuming you have a Unix source
license, you can get such-and-such, but otherwise jump in a lake".

Anyhow it's pretty strange that just about everybody supports the old Unibus
PDP-11's but almost nothing is available, even from DEC, for the 11/73 -
I think this machine is only about 3 years old!!!

I'd apparently have been better off with the PDP-11/34's!

Well, I suppose I have the answer to my question... Anyone have an extra
set of RSX-11M manuals (version 4.1) laying around?

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terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr) (07/02/90)

In article <1990Jul02.023456.5861@virtech.uucp>, rickr@virtech.uucp (Rick Rodman) writes:
> I was told to look here for information on obtaining a binary of 2bsd for
> my PDP-11/73.
> Another common reply, by the way, has been "assuming you have a Unix source
> license, you can get such-and-such, but otherwise jump in a lake".

  Well, if you can show that you _do_ have a Unix license, you can get the
complete kit from Usenix.

  The license is a prerequisite, though. That isn't Usenix's doing, nor
Berkeley's, but ATT's requirement.

  Non-BSD-related followups to this discussion should probably go elsewhere,
but I'm not sure where. Maybe the Info-PDP11 list at transarc.com?
 
> Anyhow it's pretty strange that just about everybody supports the old Unibus
> PDP-11's but almost nothing is available, even from DEC, for the 11/73 -
> I think this machine is only about 3 years old!!!

  Not true! You can still get RT-11, RSTS-E, RSX-11, and probably even IAS from
DEC. You'll need a license for any of those, however. On the back of your CPU
cabinet should be a "Model/Serial" tag giving the model and serial number. The
serial number will either be something like BTOnnnn or 8nnnnnnnx. Most PDP-11
systems were sold with a "general" license, which means that they were licensed
for the buyer's choice of operating system.

  If you contact your local DEC office, located at:

  Digital Equipment Corp. 
  3020 Hamaker Court
  Fairfax, VA 22031-2220
  (703) 698-5390

  You can arrange a "license transfer" which will make you legal for a DEC
operating system. Also, _if_ you can determine that the machine was licensed
for Ultrix-11 (you'd have to get proof from the old owner), you might be
able to use that as license proof for a binary 2BSD distribution.

  Hoping this helps,

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, US
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	(201) 915-9381