6065833@PUCC.BITNET (02/09/87)
I have found ExperLogo for the Macintosh a very unsatisfactory product. There are several problems with it: The current version was written for 128 and 512K macs, and I have had various adventures getting it to run on a mac+. 1) To work on a mac+, certain files must be together in a certain folder, says the company. 2) The program works with System 3.1 and Finder 5.0, but not with any more recent versions. These versions are obsolete and there are very few around. They were in any case very buggy. 3) The company told me when I called on 2 occasions 2 different things: a) "Finder 5.3? When did that come out?" (answer: almost a year ago) b) "There is a bug in Finder 5.3, which Apple will have to fix. Have you tried calling Apple?" 4) I have not, after many hours of work, managed to print to a laserwriter; the program offers very little interfacing support for other applications, and the documentation is incredibly deficient. I would not recommend this application to anyone. I have found MS Logo to be quite nice and flexible, however. Can anyone recommend another LOGO for the macintosh? Has anyone found a way to print graphics windows on a laserwriter? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
gauchs@unc.UUCP (02/12/87)
Please excuse me for posting this, but mail rejected my reply. I was finally able to run Experlogo version 2.1? (125K is the size of the executable). THe main tip I can give you, is that yes it will work with System 3.2 and Finder 5.3 on a Mac+. You need to trash the stdEnv file every time you change system/finder/macintosh. If StdEnv does not exist, FASL will build it. If StdEnv does exist, the information it contains allows for faster startup of experlogo. Everytime you change a machine, or System, or Finder, you must trash StdEnv so it can be rebuilt to reflect the new environment. To use the imagewriter, you must have the imagewriter icon in your system folder. You may not be able to dump the graphics window to the laserwriter, screendumps generally don't work with a laserwriter as laserwriters don't know how to draw pixels. Hope this helps. It's frustrating getting information from the people at ExperTelligence. -- Susan Gauch gauchs@unc decvax!mcnc!unc!gauchs