md@mdee.UUCP (02/24/87)
HI POWERED KNOWLEGE ENGINEERS
We are working closely with several companies who
are looking to hire top notch knowledge engineers.
Positions are demanding and exciting.
SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR
Needed for 1) VAX 8650 running UNIX and VMS,
2) Symbolics 3600, 3) SUN3 running UNIX.
VAX experience required, Symbolics experience
a plus. Upward growth into artificial intel-
ligence. Suburban DC location, group is in a
tight knit environment, fun place to work.
Salary commensurate with experience. Must be
clearable. Immediate start.
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Marilyn Dee Associates, Inc.
"Specialists in Artificial Intelligence"
One Kendall Square, Suite 2200
Cambridge, Massachusetts 02139
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(617) 577 8881pfps@spar.UUCP (02/24/87)
I am extremely disgusted with the job postings from Marilyn Dee Associates. When these posting were confined to misc.jobs I was willing to remain silent, but commercial job postings to other news groups are too much. These postings are not only offensive, but are be dangerous in that they may cause some sites to cease carrying comp.ai. I suggest that anyone who harbours similar concerns to send mail to Marilyn Dee Associates, Inc. One Kendal Square, Suite 2200 Cambridge, Massachusetts 02139 (617) 577 8881 indicating their displeasure. I, for one, will have no dealings with the company in any form, and, if I have anything to do with matter, neither will my company. Peter F. Patel-Schneider Schlumberger Palo Alto Research 3340 Hillview Avenue Palo Alto, California 93404
ted@bcsaic.UUCP (03/07/87)
In article <330@spar.SPAR.SLB.COM> Peter F. Patel-Schneider writes: >I am extremely disgusted with the job postings from Marilyn Dee >Associates. When these posting were confined to misc.jobs I was >willing to remain silent, but commercial job postings to other news >groups are too much. These postings are not only offensive, but are >dangerous in that they may cause some sites to cease carrying comp.ai. >... It is not my desire to engage in a word contest with the above author or anyone else, and Marilyn Dee certainly has no need of a defense other than the one she is most capable of providing herself. I am certainly able to recognize that there are those who would find the type of posting in question objectionable, whether because of a philisophical repugnance or because of economic considerations. It is my understanding, however, that the primary purpose of the news network is the exchange of information and ideas. If the existence of job openings is not information, then we really do have a problem. No offense intended, but I find people who waste my time complaining about 'distasteful' articles to be guilty of that about which they are complaining. Peace! TJ {With Amazing Grace} The Piper (aka Ted Jardine) CFI-ASME/I Boeing Knowledge Based Systems Center ...uw-beaver!uw-june!bcsaic!ted
bzs@bu-cs.UUCP (03/12/87)
>It is not my desire to engage in a word contest with the above author >or anyone else, and Marilyn Dee certainly has no need of a defense >other than the one she is most capable of providing herself. I am >certainly able to recognize that there are those who would find the >type of posting in question objectionable, whether because of a >philisophical repugnance or because of economic considerations. It >is my understanding, however, that the primary purpose of the news >network is the exchange of information and ideas. If the existence >of job openings is not information, then we really do have a problem. No, there is really much more to it. The government provides (through grants and other allowances) a lot of the throughways by which these groups are delivered. If these are used for commercial messages that could otherwise be delivered by ordinary commercial means then the government is, in effect, competing with those commercial organizations. This can be challenged by those losing revenue and could dry up many of the resources by which the news is delivered. The govt is not supposed to be competing against these companies but providing electronic communications for research purposes. Whether or not certain messages can be construed as research probably depends on whether someone would challenge the issue, but you can be rest assured that if money is involved we are on much thinner ice. There are few rules on silliness. There is also the issue of "if one can do it then...", needless to say these groups would become quite a nuisance if access were given to everyone who could profit by using them for advertising. We can only assume that if the floodgates were opened then, well, there would be a flood. Free advertising is of immense value to a business, especially when it can be directed at such a concentrated audience (well, free to them, you're paying for it in most cases.) Anyways, misc.jobs was thought to be of sufficient service to the receiving community that it's being chanced, but wholesale abuse by posting commercialistic to random research groups could sink the whole ship. If you'll excuse the pun, don't take the network for granted, the government's position is not indefensible!