morus@netmbx.UUCP (Thomas M.) (03/30/88)
In article <8803250634.AA22441@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SYSTHVU@BLEKUL11.BITNET (Van Uytven Herman) writes: > >I'm interested in systems for automating the knowledge extraction process. >In the literature there's a lot of information about these systems. >Personally, I'm looking for some references of commercially available products. >Can anyone provide me this information ? >Is there anyone who uses these systems, or has some experience with them ? >I'd be very grateful if you could send your comments to me. >Thanks in advance, > >Chris Vanhoutte I think that this topic might be of interest for some in the ai-community. Please post responses to one of the relevant newsgroups. I am just doing a study about knowledge elicitation methods - mainly using the articles of the Knowledge Acquisition for Knowledge Based Systems Workshop, Banff, Canada, 1986 and 1987. My main interest lie in psychological aspects, the "rebirthing" of common theories and tools which emerged from psychotherapy and diagnostics like structered interviews, repertory grids, MDS and the like. My personal opinion is, that the ideal knowledge engineer has to be a kind of psychotherapist and well trained in general and social psychology more than a technician trained in representation methods and using appropriate tools. A lot of commercially available tools for building XPS cannot account for the psychological and philosophical problems which emerge with such a difficile topic as knowledge elicitation. If you read adverts for those tools you could get the impression that these problems are already solved - just fill in a couple of so called examples and the tool will create a knowledge base for you. Experts - be aware! --- Thomas Muhr PS.: What about elicitation by hypnosis ? !-) -- @(^o^)@ @(^x^)@ @(^.^)@ @(^_^)@ @(*o*)@ @('o`)@ @(`!')@ @(^o^)@ @ Thomas Muhr Tel.: (Germany) 030 - 87 41 62 (voice!) @ @ NET-ADRESS: muhrth@db0tui11.bitnet or morus@netmbx.UUCP @ @ BTX: 030874162 @ -- @(^o^)@ @(^x^)@ @(^.^)@ @(^_^)@ @(*o*)@ @('o`)@ @(`!')@ @(^o^)@ @ Thomas Muhr Tel.: (Germany) 030 - 87 41 62 (voice!) @ @ NET-ADRESS: muhrth@db0tui11.bitnet or morus@netmbx.UUCP @ @ BTX: 030874162 @
fiorentino1@cup.portal.com (04/03/88)
In response to Thomas Muhr: I refer you to Expert Systems for Experts by Kamran Parsaye and Mark Chignell; John Wiley 1988 which covers the area discussed quite well. I am specifically interested in repertory grids and have toyed with the idea of purchasing Finn Tschudi Flexigrid to use in learning to apply grids in the psychotherapeutic process. I have a degree in Philosophy and are starting a dissertation in Counseling Psychology for a PhD. I have been an investigator for twenty years doing thousands of interviews. I realized recently how everything I have done may have prepared me to try being a knowledge engineer. I would be intersted in knowing what literature you recommend covering the use of grids and what avaible software is best? I find much validity in what you say and would appreciate hearing your advice,