gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) (05/30/88)
>specifically, Marxist political science - is the key to making progress. >And I expect Gilbert will be happier. Pat, this is so ignorant. I doubt that you have much command of political thought at all. Marxism regards itself as a science. Following Engels, it became deterministic. Cybernetics is strong in Russia, largely because it fits in so well with Anti-Duhring style philosophy of science. I do not. The only intellectual connections between the ideas I have repeated on social aspects of reality and Marx are: i) Early dialetical materialism in the "German Ideology", certainly not beloved by traditional Marxist-Leninists. ii) Marx, with Durkheim and Weber, was one of the founding fathers of sociology. Thus any sociology has some connection with him, just as logic can't escape Principia Mathematica For a proud defender of logic, this was worse than no response at all. Logic is anything but a bourgeois illusion. It is an academic artefact which I find hard to link to ownership of the mode of production. How many factory owners are logicians? And why not? -- Gilbert Cockton, Department of Computing Science, The University, Glasgow gilbert@uk.ac.glasgow.cs <europe>!ukc!glasgow!gilbert The proper object of the study of humanity is humans, not machines