dewey@sequoia.UUCP (Dewey Henize) (04/26/89)
This is posted for a friend who's net access is, um, flakey at best. She has asked me to post this and I'll add that if you can't contact her with the paths she has included, let me know and I'll try to pass things on to her. Included message follows: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been happily lurking on comp.ai for about a year. This is my first Usenet post so please go gently on me. Requests for information are often not the most exciting or wanted postings, but I could use some help. I am trying to formulate a paper on a very rough topic, that of anticipation (elaboration of definition at end of message). I have been intrigued by Hofstadter's musings on feedback loops and their relation to consciousness, and the idea of "self-symbols" and self-referencing. (Dennett, "the soul as the center of narrative gravity" and so forth). Self-monitoring is not limited to biological systems but it is also found in computational systems. My initial forays into possible sources of information has ranged from animal ecology, control systems (and related areas), to biological control systems and feedback, and mathematical modelling on the above. This is much too scattered for a short (15 pg) paper. ------- It seems that intelligence and anticipation can occur in warning systems (computers, vervet monkeys) without there being consciousness of a high-level sort. So, I have two requests: 1. Good sources of information on the above mention stuff that can help me say something about consciousness. 2. If there are any opinions on the relationship between intelligence and anticipation and whether consciousness need be there at any high level I wouldn't mind a discussion or opinions. Thank you. Please reply (if appropriate) to me at the addresses below. My site receives probably <20% of all posts to usenet, so I appreciate any direct replies because I may never see them on the net. Internet(/arpa/csnet): JJoy@Lucy.Wellesley.edu Bitnet: JJoy%Lucy.Wellesley.edu@relay.cs.net ------- (reprinted from _The Oxford Companion to the Mind_ without permission:) ANTICIPATION (or Prediction) The development of the nervous system though the evolution of species is characterized by increasing powers of anticipation -- the ability to survive against nature and predators. Anticipatory behaviour is not initiated by stimuli; so a stimulus-response account of the behaviour of higher animals is essentially inadequate. Intelligent anticipation requires stored knowledge, and the ability to draw analogies from past situations, which may be in many ways different from the current situation. This ability is uniquely developed in humans. Its neural localization is essentially in the frontal lobes of the cerebral cortex; but it may be case that damage to the frontal lobes produces personality changes such that the future is judged less important. Anticipation allows organisms and societies to avoid danger before disaster strikes; it allows strategies to be devised and individual and communal plans to be made for overcoming nature and enemies, and for achieving goals. Such abilities are quite foreign to inanimate matter, and are beyond the capacity of many living things; anticipation requires a mind. Some would argue, however, that computers may reasonably be said to have the ability to anticipate and warn of situations and events, and hence to be 'mindful'. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | ...!cs.utexas.edu!execu!dewey or | "If you will just quit shouting at me, I | | ...!natinst!sequoia!dewey | will try to hear what you are saying" | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | If I so often disagree with my company, of course these ideas are mine | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn) (04/27/89)
Let me suggest that your friend check out _Anticipatory Systems_ by Robert Rosen. Also, try posting to alt.cyb-sys or joining the Systems and Cybernetics mailing list and posting there. Send the command 'SUB CYBSYS-L your_full_name' to LISTSERV@BINGVMB.BITNET. -- O----------------------------------------------------------------------> | Cliff Joslyn, Cybernetician at Large | Systems Science, SUNY Binghamton, vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu V All the world is biscuit shaped. . .