[comp.ai] Integration of Expert Systems with Data Bases: A Summary of Responses

ravula@neuron.uucp (Ramesh Ravula) (06/11/90)

    I would like to thank people involved in responding to my question about 
integrating expert systems with data bases. Here is a summary of all the 
responses.      

Ramesh Ravula
GE Medical Systems

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Try _Readings_in_Artificial_Intelligence_&_Databases edited by John
Mylopoulos and Michael L. Brodie, published by Morgan Kaufmann, copyright
1989. 

You might save some work by buying an expert system shell which has data
base query built in.  The one that comes to mind is _Mercury_ by Artificial
Intelligence Technologies, Inc., but there are probably others.  This one
is unique in that the rules can be stored as database objects.

Paul Nielsen
GE CR&D

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I believe you may be talking about "Intelligent Databases:
Object-oriented, Deductive Hypermedia Technologies" by K. Parsaye,
M. Chignell, S. Khoshafian, and H. Wong.  The book is published by
Wiley, 1989.

Rich Carnahan
Martin Marietta Information Systems Group
carnahan@inljeff.den.mmc.com

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Ramesh,

If you're thinking of 
    /Intelligent Databases/ by Kamran Parsaye, Mark Chignell, 
    Setrag Khoshafian, and Harry Wong, (C)1989 by John Wiley &sons, 
    ISBN 0-471-50346-0, -50345-2(pbk), $24.95
it's an overly broad overview of Object-Oriented, Expert systems, and 
hyper-hype stuff.  Browse before you buy; it will get dated rapidly.
It is one of a batch of books being published in order to sell software
as a follow-on.  This is not quite my idea of electronic publishing.

-- bill ricker
/bill ricker/

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Some Companies supplying expert system shells with a built in data base query:
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Here's the reference: 

	Neuron Data
	444 High St. 
	Palo Alto, CA 94301
	415-321-4488

I got this out of the MACINTOSH BUYER'S GUIDE, which you should be able
to find in your local bookstore for about $8. 

They have versions running on PCs, SUNs (and other UNIX platforms), Macs
(with a NEAT Hypercard interface), and NeXT. 

Another possibility for you to look at (I am not familiar with their
PC-based products) is INFERENCE, Inc. They have something called ART/IM, 
which runs on VAXen, PCs, UNIX machines, etc. I THINK I remember hearing 
that they interface to various DBs, but am not real certain as to which
ones. 

	Inference, Inc.
	(213)417-7997

	This is their HOTLINE (support) number; they can refer you to 
	their telemarketing folks.

---Rich Carnahan

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If what you need is an intro to DBMS for AI/ES folk, that (Intelligent Data
Bases) might be a good FIRST book!  It doesn't seem to assume much of anything,
so it doesn't get very far, but it does provide basic descriptions of DBMSs
and gives some discussion of how DB, AI, Hype, ES, ... can benefit from
integrating // cross-fertilizing with eachother.

I'm glad people are noticing that different specialities can learn from 
what eachother have  already discovered.

I don't recall any other DB-for-AI titles, but they probably exist.

Ah! Ullman's classic DBMS book is now a two or three volume set which 
also discusses internals of Knowledge Based Systems, so I guess that would
be another.  Haven't got the final volume yet, myself, but Ullman used to be
good, so I assume I'm getting my money's worth ordering it.

-- 
/bill ricker/
wdr@wang.com a/k/a wricker@northeastern.edu

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