krishnan@csunc.cs.uh.edu (Parameshwaran Krishnan [KRIS]) (11/23/89)
Hi, I am currently doing a project using CLIPS. Any person who has any information on the FLOW of CLIPS or can suggest any book which describes CLIPS is welcome. I have been programming in Procedural languages for almost 4 years. And i find it difficult to understand the flow in CLIPS. Somebody enlighten me please ..... Thanks in anticipation... BYE Krishnan P
benson@dcdwest.uucp (Peter Benson) (09/05/90)
Has anyone done any work with CLIPS. I have a short time fuse project and I want to put together a short rule-based system to learn the language. Any help would be appreciated. Peter Benson, Ph.D. | ITT Aerospace/Communications Division phone: (619)578-3080 | 10060 Carroll Canyon Road fax: (619)578-5371 | San Diego, CA 92131 email: dcdwest!benson@UCSD.EDU | -- Peter Benson, Ph.D. | ITT Aerospace/Communications Division phone: (619)578-3080 | 10060 Carroll Canyon Road fax: (619)578-5371 | San Diego, CA 92131 email: dcdwest!benson@UCSD.EDU |
sxl@banzai.WPI.EDU (Shawna Liu) (10/18/90)
Help please! Does anybody know ANYthing about where to get CLIPS or at least where to get the info about where to get it? Any reply appreciated. shawna sxl@cs.wpi.edu 508-752-9113 (home) 508-831-5568 (office)
np4@prism.gatech.EDU (POMPONIO,NICHOLAS A) (10/19/90)
In article <1990Oct18.095610@banzai.WPI.EDU> sxl@banzai.WPI.EDU (Shawna Liu) writes: >Help please! Does anybody know ANYthing about where to get CLIPS >or at least where to get the info about where to get it? > >Any reply appreciated. CLIPS can be obtained from the Computer Software Management and Information Center (COSMIC), which is located at the University of Georgia. The address & telephone number are: COSMIC The University of Georgia 382 East Broad Street Athens, Ga. 30602 (404) 542-3265 -- POMPONIO,NICHOLAS A Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!np4 Internet: np4@prism.gatech.edu
ntm1169@dsac.dla.mil (Mott Given) (10/20/90)
From article <1990Oct18.095610@banzai.WPI.EDU>,sxl@banzai.WPI.EDU (Shawna Liu): > Help please! Does anybody know ANYthing about where to get CLIPS > or at least where to get the info about where to get it? I have enclosed a response from a previous posting. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.ai.shells Subject: Re: Looking for SOAR and CLIPS Posted: Mon Apr 10 13:41:15 1989 From article <4496@uklirb.UUCP>, by manli@cs.uh.edu (Man L. Li): > We are looking for SOAR and CLIPS for our research project. Can somebody > let us know how to obtain them. Hopefully they are free or at minimal cost > for educational purpose. Thanks a lot. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Man L. Li (manli@cs.uh.edu) > Dept. of Computer Science > University of Houston According to my most recent information, CLIPS is available from NASA. You can contact them at: COSMIC 382 E. Broad St Athens, GA 30602 (404)-542-3265 The last information that I have indicates that CLIPS is free to Govenment Agencies and is available to others for a fee. I'm not sure how accurate this information is, as it is approx. 1 year old, so contact them to be sure. (I work for the Government, so we were able to get the free copy:-) Duane L. Rezac +-----------------------+---------------------------------------------------+ | Duane L. Rezac |These views are my own, and NOT representitive of | | dsacg1!dcscg1!cpp90221|my place of Employment. | +-----------------------+---------------------------------------------------+ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Mott Given @ Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center, DSAC-TMP, Bldg. 27-1, P.O. Box 1605, Columbus, OH 43216-5002 INTERNET: mgiven@dsac.dla.mil UUCP: ...{osu-cis}!dsac!mgiven Phone: 614-238-9431 AUTOVON: 850-9431 FAX: 614-238-9928 I speak for myself
rdominy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Dominy) (11/15/90)
In article <1990Nov9.151042.11127@Think.COM> alk@think (Tony Kimball) writes: > > CLIPS can be obtained from the Computer Software Management and Inform > > Center (COSMIC)... > > Cost is about $300, though technically it is in the Public > > Domain because it was produced by the gov't. You can > > replicate & redistribute it without restrictions. > > So when is some kind soul going to make it available for FTP? There is a version of CLIPS posted to the sumex ftp site and to the commercial service Genie. ------------------------------- Robert Dominy NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
rdominy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Dominy) (11/15/90)
In article <1990Nov12.140406.119@cs.utk.edu> news@cs.utk.edu (USENET News System) writes: > As a (government) user of CLIPS, I believe that CLIPS is technically > *NOT* in the public domain, as it is distributed by either NAS/JSC in > Houston or COSMIC, as the previous posting said. Whether it's actually in the public domain is arguable, but it is definitely not copyrighted (take a close look through your disks and documentation) nor licensed. In article <1990Nov12.140406.119@cs.utk.edu> news@cs.utk.edu (USENET News System) writes: > We are *NOT* permitted > to distribute CLIPS code "willy-nilly" to our non-government > contractors. For non-gov't users, the $300.00 fee to COSMIC buys the > source code for the system, and permits the user to use/alter it as > s/he sees fit. The only restrictions listed in the documentation is that copies supplied to the US Gov't (such as myself here at NASA GSFC) can only be RE- distributed for US Gov't work. This means that contractors working for the gov't are covered, so I can willy-nilly distribute this code to my contractors. The note goes on to say that "for non-government work you must buy CLIPS from COSMIC ..." In article <1990Nov12.140406.119@cs.utk.edu> news@cs.utk.edu (USENET News System) writes: > The user can also distribute *finished products*, but > not the source or the entire shell, as I understand the arrangements. > Hence, no FTP-ing, I think. continuing from my quote above "... in which case you can do WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH IT." Sounds pretty unrestricted to me. I would however strongly advocate buying the program through COSMIC, because this is easiest way of getting a good set of documentation and up-to- date software. Even more importantly, the purchase supports continued development of CLIPS (at least indirectly). CLIPS is under constant development at NASA/JSC and now boasts its own annual conference. ------------------------------- Robert Dominy NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
killem@clmqt.marquette.Mi.US (11/17/90)
news@cs.utk.edu (USENET News System) writes: >As a (government) user of CLIPS, I believe that CLIPS is technically >*NOT* in the public domain, as it is distributed by either NAS/JSC in >Houston or COSMIC, as the previous posting said. We are *NOT* permitted >to distribute CLIPS code "willy-nilly" to our non-government From "Expert Systems--Printciples and Programming" by Joseph Giarratano and Gary Riley: pg xvix-xx: "The congress has charged NASA with the task of stimulating the widest possible use of its new technology in the national interest. NASA seeks to meet that responsibility through its Technology Utilization Program, whose ai is to broaden and accelerate the technology trasfer process." "NASA's mechanism for making sofware technology available to the private sector is the Computer Management Software and Information Center (COSMIC (tm))." COSMIC is locate at U. of Georga, where a library of containing more than 1,400 programs "for tasks such as structual analysis, design of fluid systems, electronic circuit design, chemical analyses, determination of building energy requirements, and a variety of other functions including artificial intelligence. COSMIC customers can purchase a program for a fractionof its original cost..." The price quoted in the above article does sound right. Currently, a fully ADA compatable version is in works (or maybe finished by now), so that full compatability with the C version is achieved. >contractors. For non-gov't users, the $300.00 fee to COSMIC buys the >source code for the system, and permits the user to use/alter it as >s/he sees fit. The user can also distribute *finished products*, but >not the source or the entire shell, as I understand the arrangements. >Hence, no FTP-ing, I think. >Phil Spelt, ORNL >From: sfp@stc06.ornl.gov (SPELT P F) >Path: stc06!sfp tttttt pppppp qqqqqq Todd Pasanen 1200Baud tt pp p qq qq tpq@clmqt.marquette.mi.US! tt ppppp qq qq toddp@lopez.UUCP too! eh? tt pp qqqqqqq ..Stop, forget it!!!
rpoldrac@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Russ Poldrack) (11/19/90)
I originally misposted this to comp.ai.philosophy: Does anyone know of FTP sites with CLIPS rule bases? The ones that come with it are fairly small. Email to me and I will post if there is any interest. Russ Poldrack (rpoldrac@s.psych.uiuc.edu)
joshua@athertn.Atherton.COM (Flame Bait) (11/21/90)
sfp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (SPELT P F) writes: > For non-gov't users, the $300.00 fee to COSMIC buys the > source code for the system, and permits the user to use/alter it as > s/he sees fit. The user can also distribute *finished products*, but > not the source or the entire shell, as I understand the arrangements. > Hence, no FTP-ing, I think. You can buy CLIPS (with source) from the Austin Code Works. The cost is about $60 when you get all the documentation. It comes on IBM PC disks, but I was able to move it to a Sun, where it compiled without changes. Austin Code Works advertises (sp?) in BYTE and Dr. Dobb's journal. Is there a CLIPS mailing list? I can't start one, but I'd love to join one. Joshua Levy (joshua@atherton.com) (408) 734-9822
john@amc-gw.amc.com (John Sambrook) (11/22/90)
In article <33715@joshua.athertn.Atherton.COM> joshua@Atherton.COM (Flame Bait) writes: > >Is there a CLIPS mailing list? I can't start one, but I'd love to join one. I'll second this request. I'd like to be included on any existing CLIPS mailing list. -- John Sambrook DNS: john@amc.com Applied Microsystems Corporation UUCP: amc-gw!john Redmond, Washington 98073 Dial: (206) 882-2000 ext. 630
ntm1169@dsac.dla.mil (Mott Given) (11/24/90)
There is an electronic bulletin board for software from COSMIC,
including CLIPS and NETS. COSMIC is a nonprofit agency that distributes
software developed by NASA and other government agencies.
The phone numbers for the BBS are as follows:
713-280-3896 or 713-280-3892 (modem setup 2400 baud, N-8-1)
COSMIC has an E-Mail address now:
INTERNET: SERVICE@COSSACK.COSMIC.UGA.EDU
They also have an E-Mail mailing list that you can get onto by
sending E-mail to Tim Sykes at the above address.
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Phone: 614-238-9431 AUTOVON: 850-9431 FAX: 614-238-9928 I speak for myselfjasona@sugar.hackercorp.com (Jason Asbahr) (12/28/90)
Greetings!
Is anyone familiar with CLIPS, a software shell for developing expert
systems? It was developed at Johnson Space Center (right down the street!
(more or less)) and I found a version for my Atari ST on the local Atari
Users Group bbs. The small doc file arc'ed with it that dates my version
from 1987 and I'm hoping to find an updated version.
I'm also looking for CLIPS "experts" who are willing to share their
experiences (both good and bad) with the program. Has anyone received
the User's Guide or the Reference Manual available from JSC? Have books
been written about CLIPS yet (that I might find in a library)?
I have not worked with Expert Systems before and CLIPS seems like a good
way to get involved. Is there a newsgroup focused on ES yet?
Thanks,
-Jason Asbahr, clattering away at sugar, Houston
-- kirchner@cs.umn.edu (Roger B. Kirchner) (12/28/90)
One excellent reference for CLIPS is Expert Systems, Principles and Programming, by Joseph Giarratano (U Houston - Clear Lake) and Gary Riley (NASA - Johnson Space Center), PWS-Kent, 1989, ISBN 0-87835-335-6. First half is general intro to es, kr, reasoning and the second half is an introduction to CLIPS which seems quite complete. A disk with DOS version integrated micro-emacs and examples is included. I'm interested in other references, experiences too. Roger Kirchner
peterhi@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Peter Hickman) (01/14/91)
What is the latest version of CLIPS? I ask this because I made come across the
C sources in a PD catalogue ( indeed I have the stuff in my mitts at this very
moment ). The version I have is 3.11 and contains a user manual and a
technical reference along with an IBM binary.
( I made sure I got my hands on it before posting this! :) )
Peter Hi
Peter "You're doing computing as an ARTS degree!" Hickman
COGS U/G PH, University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9QH
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From article <4181@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, by peterhi@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Peter Hickman):
> What is the latest version of CLIPS? I ask this because I made come across the
Version 4.2 is the latest one currently available, but version 5.0 is
due to be shipped any day now. I have included some information below
which was posted earlier about it.
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If anyone is interested in CLIPS, you might consider waiting a little bit.
NASA has come out with CLIPS v5.0 with lots of goodies.
CLIPS Object-Oriented Language (COOL) - "The features of COOL include:
classes with multiple inheritance, single and multi-valued slots (with
slot daemons), instances with encapsulation, and message-passing (with
before, after, primary, and around message-handlers)."
Deffunctions - "deffunctions may be used to new capabilities to CLIPS
without having to write new code in C and recompile CLIPS."
Generic functions - "Generic functions can be used to overload functions
in a manner similar to, but much more powerful than, languages such as
ADA and C++."
Global Variables
Integer Data Type Support
Conflict Resolution Strategies and Salience Extensions - "Seven conflict
resolution strategies are provided including depth, breadth, lex, mea,
simplicity, complexity, and random. ... Salience values can also be
dynamically evaluated each time a new activation is added to the agenda..."
Deftemplate Field Checking
Incremental Reset
Truth Maintenance - "Facts can be made logically dependent upon the
existence or nonexistence of other facts."
(quoted from CLIPS v5.0 announcement)
NASA, USAF, and their contractors can get CLIPS by calling the CLIPS
Help Desk at (713) 280-2233 (Mon - Fri). CLIPS v5.0 will be available
to the general public "by early 1991" (from the v5.0 announcement).
I heard from reliable sources that it would be January 1991.
The general public can obtain CLIPS from COSMIC (for $350):
COSMIC
382 E. Broad St.
Athens, GA 30602
(404) 542-3265
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