merlin@hqda-ai.UUCP (05/30/87)
I begin to wonder about the doings of comp.sources.misc. I wasn't too happy when it became a moderated group. The short history of this group suggests that there is a problem here, and I think action is needed. We were first told that this group would only filter out the non-source stuff. For this reason, postings would not suffer the delay inherent in using comp.sources.unix. [I wanted to provide quotes for the above, but the relevant articles have expired.] Later, Brandon Allbery (the moderator) decided that he would test programs for machines that he had access to. (See article 2500@ncoast.UUCP) VAX/VMS and other oddball OS :-) programs would not be tested, but most Unix stuff would be. Now, we see binaries posted to comp.sources.misc. This has finally motivated me to act. Brandon, I think you should revert to the original position. Filter non-source postings. No testing. No quality assurance. No guarantee of any sort. Just source, and nothing else. Of course, that may not be your idea of how to run comp.sources.misc. If you want to give it up, I'd be willing to take the job. (I have plenty of spooling space, and reasonably reliable mail paths.) Please don't take this as a personal attack. I think you've made some mistakes, but I don't think you're malicious or stupid. I invite a public discussion, to include any interested readers. -- David S. Hayes, The Merlin of Avalon PhoneNet: (202) 694-6900 UUCP: *!seismo!sundc!hqda-ai!merlin ARPA: merlin%hqda-ai@seismo.css.gov
ane@hal.UUCP (Aydin "Bif" Edguer) (06/01/87)
As time goes on my tolerance level goes down. To steal a quote : > Message-ID: <389@hqda-ai.UUCP> > This has finally motivated me to act. Well Dave (and many others too numerous to quote) you have shown a lack of information (hopefully not to be confused with intelligence) with all your complaints about comp.sources.misc. > Now, we see binaries posted to comp.sources.misc. Complaints about binaries showing up in a SOURCE group. E-GADS, call out the FBI (or better yet the NSA). If you would be kind enough to read the official (as much as anything is in an anarchy) list of newsgroups you would find that this is the proper location for source OR binary SOFTWARE. To quote: > Message-ID: <15493@gatech.gatech.edu> > [Most recent change: 16 May 1987 by gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore)] [ed. note : some lines deleted] > comp.sources.misc Posting of software . (Moderated) > Message-ID: <161@madhat.UUCP> > ... I was also unhappy about paying for something which should have gone to > comp.binaries and for which I have absolutely no use. Oh, Now I See the LIGHT !! Of course it should have gone in comp.binaries ! To which do you refer... > Message-ID: <15493@gatech.gatech.edu> > comp.binaries.amiga Encoded public domain programs in binary. (Moderated) > comp.binaries.atari.st Binary-only postings for the Atari ST.(Moderated) > comp.binaries.mac Encoded Macintosh programs in binary. (Moderated) Gee, I guess I don't see and I guess most people don't read even the documents that we ask neophyte net readers to examine. There is NO binary miscellaneous group for Brandon or anyone else to post to. Comp.sources.misc is where they go. If you wish to start such a news group feel free to start collecting votes (BY MAIL !!) but do not jump on Brandon, who is doing a fine job of making sure discussions and other garbage stays out of comp.sources.misc. To borrow a quote again... > Please don't take this as a personal attack. I think you've > made some mistakes, but I don't think you're malicious or stupid. Well Dave, I don't think you're stupid either, merely ignorant, a state which is curable (I hope). Aydin Edguer !{sun,cbosgd,decvax}!cwruecmp!hal!ane 0900-1700 EST : (216) 368-3970