[news.misc] I want my Net dot Sources.

joe@auspyr.UUCP (06/04/87)

For sure I'm not the first to complain about this... but I really miss
net.sources.  ...Can we have it back!? Or do we need to start an underground
news group!?

I can go on, but I won't...


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gnu@hoptoad.UUCP (06/05/87)

In article <6170@auspyr.UUCP>, joe@auspyr.UUCP (Joe Angelo) writes:
> For sure I'm not the first to complain about this... but I really miss
> net.sources.  ...Can we have it back!? Or do we need to start an underground
> news group!?

I have actually started an underground newsgroup for unmoderated sources,
but I had a better idea.  Check out this excerpt from the May readership
stats:

       +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
       |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
       |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
       |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
       |     |     |      |     +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
       |     |     |      |     |      +-- Participation ratio
       |     |     |      |     |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/reader
       |     |     |      |     |      |    |       +-- Share: % of newsreaders
       |     |     |      |     |      |    |       |   who read this group.
       V     V     V      V     V      V    V       V
  1 25000  1977   77%     1    1.5     0   0.00   13.8%  news.announce.important
  2 22000  1729   97%   618  951.5    28   0.21   12.1%  comp.sys.ibm.pc
  3 22000  1715   90%   142  251.2     6   0.05   12.0%  misc.consumers.house
  4 20000  1559   70%     2    1.2     0   0.00   10.9%  net.sources

The group the backbone just couldn't kill -- net.sources -- is getting
to 70% of the sites, and has the 4th largest readership of any newsgroup.

So post your unmoderated sources there.  I just did.

And if you don't have net.sources on your machine, create it, and make sure
your feed is feeding it.  70% of the net has it, why should you miss out?

WARNING:  don't talk in it.  Post your talk to comp.sources.d.  Post
your SOURCES to net.sources.  Forgetting that is how we got in this trouble
in the first place.  Post your binaries to /dev/kmem, that's where they belong.
When Rich recovers from overdosing on drug tests, we can go back to sending
the Quality stuff to him.  Til then, see you in net.sources!
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joe@auspyr.UUCP (Joe Angelo) (06/08/87)

in article <2264@hoptoad.uucp>, gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) says:
> In article <6170@auspyr.UUCP>, joe@auspyr.UUCP (Joe Angelo) writes:
>> For sure I'm not the first to complain about this... but I really miss
>> net.sources.  ...Can we have it back!? Or do we need to start an underground
>> news group!?
> The group the backbone just couldn't kill -- net.sources -- is getting
> to 70% of the sites, and has the 4th largest readership of any newsgroup.

Why doesn't someone (anyone!? me!?) just send out another create
group message? We aren't getting net.sources here (no thanx to ucbvax?!)

Maybe we should dump the big backbones and create out own?! Anyone
(CA area) willing to feed net.sources here? Needlesstosay that I'll 
make sure the articles get reforwarded...


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"No matter      Joe Angelo, Sr. Sys. Engineer @ Austec, Inc., San Jose, CA.
where you go,   ARPA: aussjo!joe@lll-tis-b.arpa       PHONE: [408] 279-5533
there you       UUCP: {sdencore,cbosgd,amdahl,ptsfa,dana}!aussjo!joe
are ..."        UUCP: {styx,imagen,dlb,jmr,sci,altnet}!auspyr!joe

david@ms.uky.csnet (David Herron -- Resident E-mail Hack) (06/10/87)

[ It said that "this program posts articles to all the civilized world" ...
  ...hmmm....
  And I told it "yes".  I'm not sure who has the more gumption with
  that, the author for saying that Usenet defines the civilized world,
  or me for agreeing with him. ]

In article <6310@auspyr.UUCP> joe@auspyr.UUCP (Joe Angelo) writes:
>in article <2264@hoptoad.uucp>, gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) says:
>> In article <6170@auspyr.UUCP>, joe@auspyr.UUCP (Joe Angelo) writes:
>> The group the backbone just couldn't kill -- net.sources -- is getting
>> to 70% of the sites, and has the 4th largest readership of any newsgroup.

>Why doesn't someone (anyone!? me!?) just send out another create
>group message? We aren't getting net.sources here (no thanx to ucbvax?!)

>Maybe we should dump the big backbones and create out own?! Anyone
>(CA area) willing to feed net.sources here? Needlesstosay that I'll 
>make sure the articles get reforwarded...

Well.  I'm willing to help out with this a little bit.  I'm willing
to set up news links over PC-Pursuit (no, we're not in a pc-pursuit
city, but we can get out over it quite nicely).  So long as the news
links are low traffic we won't notice it.  Of course the transfers'll
have to be done at night so it don't cost us nothing.  "low traffic"
means net.sources plus very little else.

I have a program stuck in comp.sources.unix waiting for Rich to
get done with moving to BBN.  argh!  And Brandon doesn't want to
post it in comp.sources.misc because it's not a generic program.
2*argh!
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