randy@oresoft.UUCP (Randy Bush) (09/06/87)
wheatena!gsmith (Gene Ward Smith) writes: > At first he > threatened the department here with legal action. The result > is that Matthew Wiener was kicked off our machines, and hence > his work on his thesis has been delayed. Censorship on the net (which is a crock) pales in comparison to a university allowing a sociopathic threat resulting from a bunch of stupid net.flaming to affect an academic career. Either there is more here than meets the pixels, or someone's forgotten something about academic freedom. You are at UCB, aren't you, GWS? Is this 1950? We have to expect net.fights to spill over into 'real' life, but does the university have to take it seriously? -- Randy Bush, Compiler Group, Oregon Software, Portland Oregon (503) 245-2202 uucp: ..!tektronix!oresoft!randy Telemail: RBush Fidonet: 1:105/6
gsmith@BOSCO.BERKELEY.EDU (09/07/87)
In article <64@oresoft.UUCP> randy@oresoft.UUCP (Randy Bush) writes: >Either there is more here than meets the pixels, >or someone's forgotten something about academic freedom. You are at UCB, >aren't you, GWS? Is this 1950? We have to expect net.fights to spill over >into 'real' life, but does the university have to take it seriously? I've talked with the people here a bit and still can't see why they take net-war stuff seriously. The feeling seems to be that net-news is a pretty marginal use of departmental resources, and that they just don't want to deal with all the Maroney types who show up foaming at the mouth. I agree that the attitudes here seem to have reverted to a pre-FSM mentality. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see the whole thing happen again, and it might be a Good Thing if it did. Tim Maroney himself was kicked off the computers at the University of North Carolina. How he can then have the almighty gall to censor Matthew and attempt to censor me, I couldn't say. If he is indeed a communist like he claimed, maybe he figures if it was good enough for Lenin to be a victim of censorship and then a censor, it should be good enough for Timmmy. "This paragraph is why I have felt free to insult you." -- Tim Maroney ucbvax!bosco!gsmith Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720