editor@chinet.UUCP (Alex Zell) (01/01/70)
>Ummm..I thought X-rays were discovered sometime in the 20's. > Michael I. Bushnell > {ucbvax,gatech}!unmvax!turing!mike Wilhelm Roentgen was awarded a Nobel prize in 1901 for his discovery ------ of x-rays in 1895. -- Alex Zell ihnp4!chinet!editor I'd rather be on Pictou Island, N.S.
greg@utcsri.UUCP (10/04/87)
In article <1632@chinet.UUCP> editor@chinet.UUCP (Alex Zell) writes: >Whenever I came to an entry such as "B000" or "F000" I would pronounce >"boo" or "foo" and would be corrected by son Pete: "No, you should >always spell it out "ef-zero-zero-zero" or we may end up with errors." >(You have no idea how rigid very young teenagers can be. "What's right >is right.") You should always spell it out, fox-zero-zero-zero, or baker-zero-zero-zero, if you don't want to end up with errors. Ever wonder why we have such good names for the digits and such lousy ones for the letters? B,C,D,E,G,P,T,V,Z in particular. Several months ago I went to Ottawa for a series of interviews at a large communications firm. Over the phone, the fellow from personnel read off a list of times and persons, and spelled the more difficult names. He also gave me a locator number to get my ticket at the airport. I confirmed the letters in the locator number using 'M as in mary, F as in Frank', and he said, 'no, M as in Mary, S as in Sarah'. When I got to the place, I gave the name of the first interviewer at each location to the security guard, who would look it up in a book. In almost every such case, the first interviewer had a difficult name which had been spelled out, and in which I had written down 'f's instead of 's's. But that's life. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Smith University of Toronto UUCP: ..utzoo!utcsri!greg Have vAX, will hack...
tedk@ihuxv.ATT.COM (Kekatos) (10/07/87)
In article <5486@utcsri.UUCP> greg@utcsri.UUCP (Gregory Smith) writes: >In article <1632@chinet.UUCP> editor@chinet.UUCP (Alex Zell) writes: >>Whenever I came to an entry such as "B000" or "F000" I would pronounce >>"boo" or "foo" and would be corrected by son Pete: "No, you should >>always spell it out "ef-zero-zero-zero" or we may end up with errors." >>(You have no idea how rigid very young teenagers can be. "What's right >>is right.") > >You should always spell it out, fox-zero-zero-zero, or baker-zero-zero-zero, >if you don't want to end up with errors. > >Greg Smith University of Toronto UUCP: ..utzoo!utcsri!greg Hexadecimal is always read digit by digit. Trailing zeros are sometimes read as "hundred" or "thousand" (such as "F000" equals "ef-thousand"). Having worked in Technical support for three years, I can tell you many stories of computer error due to similar "reading" mis-understandings. Remember: 0 = "zero" O = "oh" Ted G. Kekatos ihnp4!ihuxv!tedk
jc@minya.UUCP (jc) (10/11/87)
> You should always spell it out, fox-zero-zero-zero, or baker-zero-zero-zero, > if you don't want to end up with errors. > Hey, how about posting the entire alphabet in this form. I mean, I know about Able, Baker, Charlie, Dawg, Eagle, and Fox, which I guess suffices for hex numbers, but it might be useful some day to know the rest of them. [Having dodged the draft successfully, I didn't get it in the usual fashion. :-] -- John Chambers <{adelie,ima,maynard}!minya!{jc,root}> (617/484-6393)
lindsay@dscatl.UUCP (Lindsay Cleveland) (10/11/87)
John Chambers asks: > Hey, how about posting the entire alphabet in this form. I mean, I > know about Able, Baker, Charlie, Dawg, Eagle, and Fox, which I guess > suffices for hex numbers, but it might be useful some day to know the > rest of them. [Having dodged the draft successfully, I didn't get it > in the usual fashion. :-] With the advent of NATO and other pressures for the U.S. to think a little more "internationally", the phonetic alphabet has changed from the one used in World War II ("Able Company...How Company..."). Herewith is the list adopted by the International Telecommunication Union; and for you nostalgia types, the older version as well. ITU "Old" ITU "Old" A - Alfa Able N - November November B - Bravo Baker O - Oscar Ocean C - Charlie Charlie P - Papa Papa D - Delta Dog Q - Quebec Queen E - Echo Easy R - Romeo Roger F - Foxtrot Fox S - Sierra Sugar G - Golf George T - Tango Tango H - Hotel How U - Uniform United I - India Ida V - Victor Victor J - Juliet Jig W - Whiskey Whiskey K - Kilo King X - X-ray X-ray L - Lima Lima Y - Yankee Yankee M - Mike Mike Z - Zulu Zebra A couple of the "old" ones might be in error...I haven't used them since 1951, and I couldn't find my 1941 Army Handbook (issued to everyone as they came into Boot Camp.) Cheers, Lindsay Lindsay Cleveland Digital Systems Co. Atlanta, Ga gatech!dscatl!lindsay (404) 497-1902 (U.S. Mail: PO Box 1140, Duluth, GA 30136)
jp@linus.UUCP (Jeffrey Picciotto) (10/11/87)
In article <281@minya.UUCP> jc@minya.UUCP (jc) writes: >> You should always spell it out, fox-zero-zero-zero, or baker-zero-zero-zero, >> if you don't want to end up with errors. > >Hey, how about posting the entire alphabet in this form. World War I * World War II Present ** Afirm Able Alfa Baker Baker Bravo Cast Charlie Charlie or Carlos Dog Dog Delta Easy Easy Echo Fox Fox Foxtrot George George Golf Hypo How Hotel Inter Item India Jig Jig Juliett King King Kilo Love Love Lima Mike Mike Mike or Metro Negate Nan November Option Oboe Oscar Prep Peter Papa Queen Queen Quebec Roger Roger Romeo Sail Sugar Sierra Tare Tare Tango Uncle Uncle Uniform Victor Victor Victor William William Whiskey X-ray X-ray X-ray Yoke Yoke Yankee Zed Zebra Zulu * Still used by some radio amateurs and others, particularly old-timers. ** For joint and intra-Air Force use. --jeff {*}!linus!jp jpicc@mitre-bedford.arpa
max@eros.uucp (Max Hauser) (10/12/87)
In article <281@minya.UUCP> jc@minya.UUCP (jc) writes: >... >Hey, how about posting the entire alphabet in this form. I mean, I >know about Able, Baker, Charlie, Dawg, Eagle, and Fox, which I guess >suffices for hex numbers, but it might be useful some day to know the >rest of them. [Having dodged the draft successfully, I didn't get it >in the usual fashion. :-] And you're not going to get "them" this way, either, as a couple of response postings have already illustrated. There are so many "standard" phonetic alphabets. None, for example, posted so far, includes the FCC-encouraged "Nectar" for N that I learned as a commercial radio operator ("Juliet-Kilo-Lima-Nectar-Oscar-Poppa..."). I think one could make a respectable hobby collecting these lists... Max W. Hauser, UC Berkeley EECS Department
max@eros.uucp (Max Hauser) (10/12/87)
In article <1943@ucbcad.berkeley.edu> max@eros.UUCP (Max Hauser) writes: > >None, for example, posted so far, >includes the FCC-encouraged "Nectar" for N that I learned as a >commercial radio operator ("Juliet-Kilo-Lima-Nectar-Oscar-Poppa..."). You will already have observed that I omitted M from the preceding response; this was purely a test to unearth attentive readers. The phonetic was Metro (also deviating from the ITU list). M. Hauser, P1-12-20075
mike@turing.unm.edu.unm.edu (Michael I. Bushnell) (10/13/87)
In article <15070@linus.UUCP> jp@linus.UUCP (Jeffrey Picciotto) writes: >World War I * World War II Present ** > >X-ray X-ray X-ray Ummm..I thought X-rays were discovered sometime in the 20's. Of course, I could be wrong. Michael I. Bushnell a/k/a Bach II mike@turing.unm.edu {ucbvax,gatech}!unmvax!turing!mike --- I'll eat ANYTHING that's BRIGHT BLUE!! -- Zippy the Pinhead