greg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gregory Nowak) (09/19/88)
In article <9150@cup.portal.com> john_f_tamburo@cup.portal.com writes: >We're >our own people, and we're fast becoming the dominant force in >this net! It seems like Portal users have a somewhat skewed idea of the purpose and ecology of Usenet. In article <9152@cup.portal.com> john_f_tamburo@cup.portal.com writes: >Portal will soon be THE top contributor on Usenet! It's >going to be OUR show soon, so get lost. Besides the obvious implicit threat, does this strike anyone else as evidence of a "competitive" conception of Usenet? > Criticism? This entire newsgroup is a fucking LYNCH MOB >when Portal is involved! You wan't war, buddy, YOU CAN HAVE IT! >How about a nice posting in our internal events section, asking >EVERYBODY ON PORTAL to flame you! Ready for 15,000 flames? And here the threat is made explicit. Something clearly needs to be done aobut Portal. My own opinion is that Portal is packaging Usenet as a commercial product, and in some sense violating the anti-commercialism rule, but that's just one opinion. >you gods of Usenet? Where the fuck is Admin if there's a rules >violation? Where the hell are the rules posted? Oleg said that >a .sig should be five lines, you say four. SHOW ME THE RULES! At the very least, Portal management could supply its users with an introduction to the net which points them to news.announce.newusers, which should help with such queries. It might also clear up some Portal users' confusion about the nature of Usenet rules/"customs", since they seem to think that only the "rules" need to be obeyed, but the "customs" can be safely ignored. -- rutgers!phoenix.princeton.edu!greg Gregory A Nowak/Phoenix Gang/Princeton NJ "Take 2*3*5*7*11*13. It's divisible by 59." --Matt Crawford
Infinite@cup.portal.com (09/20/88)
Portal-ites and Non-Portal-ites, I would just like to say that this John F. Tamburo fink speaks for nobody but himself and has absolutely no right to act as if his voice speaks for all of Portal. I have notified the Sysop of Portal of this outburst (not unwarranted but unjustified). However, it is true (I'm told) that there are now about 15,000 users of Portal. Most of which never use Usenet. But since Portal is continually growing, the number of Usenet users from Portal will continue to grow. I hope that Portal management and the users will be able to discount such problems users and keep things under control. On behalf of myself (not Portal, but I'm sure many users will agree with me), I would like to offer an apology for fools such as John F. Tamburo. -Infinite (Merril Weiner) 2000 Burton Drive #109 Operations Research Austin, TX 78741 Mechanical Engineering Department (512) 462-9950 UTAustin (512) 462-9962 Austin, TX 78712 Infinite@cup.portal.com (512) 471-5726
larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) (09/20/88)
In article <3686@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>, greg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gregory Nowak) writes: > > In article <9152@cup.portal.com> john_f_tamburo@cup.portal.com writes: > > Criticism? This entire newsgroup is a fucking LYNCH MOB > >when Portal is involved! You wan't war, buddy, YOU CAN HAVE IT! > >How about a nice posting in our internal events section, asking > >EVERYBODY ON PORTAL to flame you! Ready for 15,000 flames? > > And here the threat is made explicit. Something clearly needs to be > done aobut Portal. My own opinion is that Portal is packaging Usenet > as a commercial product, and in some sense violating the > anti-commercialism rule, but that's just one opinion. It is also my opinion. If it were within my power, I would simply deny the Portal site a Usenet feed. If one believes Portal's advertising hype, their "internal" bulletin boards far exceed Usenet in size; if this is true, then Portal users would miss little if denied Usenet access. <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York <> UUCP: {allegra|ames|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> VOICE: 716/688-1231 {att|hplabs|mtune|utzoo|uunet}!/ <> FAX: 716/741-9635 {G1,G2,G3 modes} "Have you hugged your cat today?"
sl@van-bc.UUCP (pri=-10 Stuart Lynne) (09/21/88)
In article <2700@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: >In article <3686@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>, greg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gregory Nowak) writes: > It is also my opinion. If it were within my power, I would simply >deny the Portal site a Usenet feed. If one believes Portal's advertising >hype, their "internal" bulletin boards far exceed Usenet in size; if this >is true, then Portal users would miss little if denied Usenet access. Portal seems to connect to the net via uunet, and pay for that access. I'm not entirely sure, but I think it would be *extremely* hard for uunet to limit their service. And I'm sure that Usenix would not want to risk a lawsuit to find out. So I guess we'll just have to boycott uunet. . . Seriously the best way to reduce traffic is to simply ignore these types of postings. If you really are upset about it hit "r" not "f". Thats what mail is for. After you have used "r", use "K". Then you will be helping to reduce the problem instead of compounding it with a flame war. In every one of these cases the bandwidth consumed by flames *far* exceeds that of the original postings. -- Stuart.Lynne@wimsey.bc.ca {ubc-cs,uunet}!van-bc!sl Vancouver,BC,604-937-7532
tjw@cisunx.UUCP (TJ Wood WA3VQJ) (09/21/88)
In article <9150@cup.portal.com> john_f_tamburo@cup.portal.com writes: >We're >our own people, and we're fast becoming the dominant force in >this net! Hee hee! Use THE FORCE Luke! BTW: Can someone show me how to set up a KILL file that kills articles with certain phrases in the BODY? I've got it working killing articles with phrases in the HEADER, but I've not had any luck with the body. Thanks much. -- (UUCP) {decwrl!allegra,bellcore,cadre,psuvax1}!pitt!cisunx!cisvms!tjw (BITNET) TJW@PITTVMS (Internet) tjw%vms.cis.pittsburgh.edu@vb.cc.cmu.edu (CC-Net) CISVMS::TJW
rbp@investor.UUCP (Bob Peirce) (09/25/88)
> In article <9150@cup.portal.com> john_f_tamburo@cup.portal.com writes: > > >We're > >our own people, and we're fast becoming the dominant force in > >this net! > > >Portal will soon be THE top contributor on Usenet! It's > >going to be OUR show soon, so get lost. > > > Criticism? This entire newsgroup is a fucking LYNCH MOB > >when Portal is involved! You wan't war, buddy, YOU CAN HAVE IT! > >How about a nice posting in our internal events section, asking > >EVERYBODY ON PORTAL to flame you! Ready for 15,000 flames? > > >you gods of Usenet? Where the fuck is Admin if there's a rules > >violation? Where the hell are the rules posted? Oleg said that > >a .sig should be five lines, you say four. SHOW ME THE RULES! > I would hate to think this is the same, nice John F. Tamburo who publishes "The Audiophile-File" out of Chicago. What a nasty person! What language! -- Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 uucp: ...!{allegra, bellcore, cadre, idis, psuvax1}!pitt!investor!rbp NOTE: Mail must be < 30K bytes/message