jbn@glacier.STANFORD.EDU (John B. Nagle) (01/07/89)
The following message was returned to me by mail, in response to a USENET posting to comp.society.futures. Somehow, a strange form of address translation was applied to the CONTENT of the message, resulting in an attempt to interpret the 1988 election returns as Internet addresses. John Nagle ==== From @cunyvm.cuny.edu:MAILER-DAEMON@wisdom.bitnet Thu Jan 5 20:35:12 1989 Received: from labrea.Stanford.EDU by glacier.stanford.edu with TCP; Thu, 5 Jan 89 20:35:02 PST Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu by labrea.stanford.edu with TCP; Thu, 5 Jan 89 20:34:56 PST Message-Id: <8901060434.AA15336@labrea.stanford.edu> Received: from wisdom.bitnet by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with BSMTP id 7800; Thu, 05 Jan 89 23:33:43 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON%WISDOM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Date: 4 Jan 89 17:40:03 GMT Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail Received: from cunyvm.bitnet by wisdom.bitnet; Fri, 6 Jan 89 06:32:46 -0200 To: jbn%glacier@labrea.stanford.edu Status: R ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 "|/usr/new/fanews fa.futures futures-list"... Address too long: Bad file num 554 "|/usr/new/fanews fa.futures futures-list"... Address too long: Bad file num ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from cunyvm.bitnet by wisdom.bitnet; Fri, 6 Jan 89 06:32:46 -0200 Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.01) with BSMTP id 4248; Thu, 05 Jan 89 23:32:21 EST Received: from multimax.encore.com by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Thu, 05 Jan 89 23:32:03 EST Received: by multimax.encore.com (5.59/25-eef) id AA03285; Wed, 4 Jan 89 14:45:29 EST Received: from UCBVAX.Berkeley.EDU by multimax.encore.com (5.59/25-eef) id AA03266; Wed, 4 Jan 89 14:45:08 EST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.61/1.33) id AA25695; Wed, 4 Jan 89 11:15:08 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-futures-mail@encore.com (info-futures@encore.com) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 4 Jan 89 17:40:03 GMT From: jbn%glacier@wisdom.bitnet (John B. Nagle) Organization: Stanford University Subject: Election results (was re: voting system) Message-Id: <17973@glacier.STANFORD.EDU> References: <2604@ficc.uu.net>, <292@gloom.UUCP> Sender: info-futures-request@wisdom.bitnet To: info-futures@encore.com Here is the final national vote tally for the 1988 presidential election: Candidate Party Votes % ==================================================, ===================George.Bush.Republican.48@wisdom.bitnet, 881@wisdom.bitnet, 011.53.37.Michael.Dukakis.Democratic.41@wisdom.bitnet, 828@wisdom.bitnet, 350.45.67.Ron.Paul.Libertarian.431@wisdom.bitnet, 499.0.47.Lenora.Fulani.New.Alliance.218@wisdom.bitnet, 159.0.24.David.Duke.Populist.48@wisdom.bitnet, 267.0.05.Eugene.McCarthy.Consumer.30@wisdom.bitnet, 510.0.03.James.Griffin.American.Independent.27@wisdom.bitnet, 818.0.03.Lyndon.LaRouche.National.Economic.Recovery.25@wisdom.bitnet, 082.0.03.William.Mara.Right.to.Life.20@wisdom.bitnet, 497.0.02.Ed.Winn.Workers.League.18@wisdom.bitnet, 579.0.02.James.Warren.Socialist.Workers.13@wisdom.bitnet, 338.0.01.Herbert.Lewin.Peace.and.Freedom.10@wisdom.bitnet, 312.0.01.Earl.Dodge.Prohibition.7@wisdom.bitnet, 984.0.01.Larry.Holmes.Workers.World.7@wisdom.bitnet, 719.0.01.Willa.Kenoyer.Socialist.3@wisdom.bitnet, 800.0.00.Delmar.Dennis.American.3@wisdom.bitnet, 456.0.00.Jack.Herer.Grassroots.1@wisdom.bitnet, 949.0.00.Louie.Youngkite.Independent.372.0.00.John.Martin.Third.World.As 934.0.01[Statistics.quoted.from.the.Associated.Press]@wisdom.bitnet
david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) (01/07/89)
I've seen things like this happen if the blank line(s) between the header and the body weren't truly blank but had spaces in it. Something which happens (at least with UREP) is that files coming in from BITNET-land have lines which are supposed to be truly empty instead contain some number of blanks. You would think this would be non-destructive, but the header parser in the news software gets confused and thinks that the first part of the body is actually part of the header. On a related note, sending out files with truly empty lines cause those "records" to disappear. -- <-- David Herron; an MMDF guy <david@ms.uky.edu> <-- ska: David le casse\*' {rutgers,uunet}!ukma!david, david@UKMA.BITNET <-- Now I know how Zonker felt when he graduated ... <-- Stop! Wait! I didn't mean to!
IRWIN@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Irwin Tillman) (01/08/89)
In article <10836@s.ms.uky.edu>, david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) writes: >I've seen things like this happen if the blank line(s) between the >header and the body weren't truly blank but had spaces in it. > >Something which happens (at least with UREP) is that files coming >in from BITNET-land have lines which are supposed to be truly >empty instead contain some number of blanks. You would think this >would be non-destructive, but the header parser in the news software >gets confused and thinks that the first part of the body is actually >part of the header. Yup. I've found that the following situation will exhibit the problem. (I've tried it with inews, version B 2.11, patchlevel 14.) Feed inews an article in which the separator line contains whitespace AND make sure that the body of the article begins with a line containing only whitespace. You'll find that the second line of the body will be concatenated with the last header. There are several ways that sites moving news from VM to UNIX can deal with the problem. I'm using a news batcher on the VM side written by Thomas Habernoll; it does the EBCDIC->ASCII conversion, and produces truly blank lines. Then I send the batch as a binary file. Another way is to change the whitespace lines to truly blank lines once they arrive on the UNIX side.