dveditz@dbase.UUCP (Dan Veditz) (01/10/90)
There may already be a GEnie->Usenet gateway. I found the following in the most recent batch of "Top 25..." articles in news.lists: > # of Articles KBytes User > 116 164.9 forthnet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) > 100% comp.lang.forth I looks like the forth group is already enjoying GEnie articles. Can anyone confirm that this *is* what it looks like? Is it with official GEnie permission, or is it some guy with a PC feeding it to USENET on the sly? -Dan uunet!ashtate!dveditz dveditz@ashtate.A-T.com
peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (01/10/90)
As I mentioned before, these are articles from GEnie transferred to comp.lang.forth. And the quality of these articles tends to make me reluctant to encourage a general 2-way GEnie/Usenet link. I think this sort of link should be either moderated, or restricted to a new genie.* hierarchy. The same is true of other traditional large-scale BBS systems. -- _--_|\ Peter da Silva. +1 713 274 5180. <peter@ficc.uu.net>. / \ \_.--._/ Xenix Support -- it's not just a job, it's an adventure! v "Have you hugged your wolf today?" `-_-'
tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) (01/11/90)
Once an email gateway is in place, GEnie users can join mailing lists (as CIS users can do now) which in turn can be gatewayed to newsgroups. This may be all that's needed. The usual argument for news over mailing lists is that the flood algorithm's more efficient over a distributed net, but with single point gateways and a black-box distribution within the commercial service, a mailing list is just as efficient. -- "We must never forget that if the war in Vietnam \ $ Tom Neff is lost... the right of free speech will be X tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET extinguished throughout the world." -- RN 10/27/65 $ \ uunet!bfmny0!tneff
6600pete@hub.UUCP (Pete Gontier) (01/11/90)
From article <15086@bfmny0.UU.NET>, by tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff): > Once an email gateway is in place, GEnie users can join mailing > lists (as CIS users can do now) which in turn can be gatewayed to > newsgroups. This may be all that's needed. Hmmm. I can't imagine why I'd pay to stay online reading Info-Mac in email when I could get to the rest of the BBS proper with a few keystrokes. In fact, after a while, I'd unsubscribe, because the mail volume would be too large. And who wants to post to two places to contribute and/or request assistance? > The usual argument for news over mailing lists is that the flood > algorithm's more efficient over a distributed net, but with single > point gateways and a black-box distribution within the commercial > service, a mailing list is just as efficient. OK, I'll asmit this is over my head, but I know I can point out that what I said isn't the usual argument! What a relief. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pete Gontier | InterNet: 6600pete@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu, BitNet: 6600pete@ucsbuxa Editor, Macker | Online Macintosh Programming Journal; mail for subscription Hire this kid | Mac, DOS, C, Pascal, asm, excellent communication skills
overby@plains.UUCP (Glen Overby) (01/11/90)
In article <357@dbase.UUCP> dveditz@dbase.A-T.com (Dan Veditz) writes: >There may already be a GEnie->Usenet gateway. I found the following in >the most recent batch of "Top 25..." articles in news.lists: >I looks like the forth group is already enjoying GEnie articles. Can anyone >confirm that this *is* what it looks like? Is it with official GEnie >permission, or is it some guy with a PC feeding it to USENET on the sly? It's "some guy with a PC". He logs on to GEnie and captures everything, then weeds out some of the chit-chat and posts it. There are also several "Forth Net" BBSes which exchange messages between themselves and GEnie. I don't know how that works. Try sending mail to forthnet@willet or (gasp!) reading comp.lang.forth to see the contact address of the guy doing the posting. He's explained it on c.l.f a time or two... BTW, the postings have not been universally welcomed on c.l.f; it has increased the volume significantly and a good portion is fluf (but whats new?). GEnie has had c.l.f imported for quite some time now. -- Glen Overby <overby@plains.nodak.edu> uunet!plains!overby (UUCP) overby@plains (Bitnet)