rs@mirror.UUCP (01/16/87)
We're running 2.11 news, and gateway it into 1.7 notes.
We have AUTOCREATE on for notes, so that if an article
comes in for a non-existant notesfile, it gets created
automatically.
Earlier versions of news would strip out newsgroups that
it thought was illegal. They no longer do this, so
notes gets things like
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions, ca.unix
And I end up with a "ca.unix" notesfile that I will have
to remove.
Has anyone got a reasonable solution to this? Thanks.
--
Rich $alz "Drug tests p**s me off"
Mirror Systems, Cambridge Massachusetts rs@mirror.TMC.COM
{mit-eddie, ihnp4, wjh12, cca, cbosgd, seismo}!mirror!rsrs@mirror.UUCP (01/27/87)
Rick Adams made a casual(?) comment at Usenix that provides the
right way to handle this situation: have the news->notes gateway
ignore any groups it can't find in /usr/lib/news/active.
I'll do this in a day or two.
--
Rich $alz "Drug tests p**s me off"
Mirror Systems, Cambridge Massachusetts rs@mirror.TMC.COM
{mit-eddie, ihnp4, wjh12, cca, cbosgd, seismo}!mirror!rsrct@occrsh.UUCP (Bob_Tracy) (02/03/87)
In article <224400003@mirror> rs@mirror.UUCP writes: > > > > Rick Adams made a casual(?) comment at Usenix that provides the > right way to handle this situation: have the news->notes gateway > ignore any groups it can't find in /usr/lib/news/active. > This assumes that the news software and the notes software exist on the same machine, or at least that the active file is conveniently accessible via a local network. The idea has merit, particularly when one notices the number of bogus newsgroups that people are attempting to post to "just to make sure that someone sees this." Unfortunately, this solution is not as automatic as it needs to be if the news software resides at a remote feed site. However, I suspect that once the USENET reorganization effort settles down a bit, the active file will be stable enough that it won't matter that an up-to-the-minute copy can't be had immediately. Perhaps the news software could strip bogus newsgroups from the "Newsgroups:" header line at the originating system. I can see problems with this approach as well, since "bogosity" would depend on the originating system's active file. (It is intended that downstream sites would not alter the "Newsgroups:" line.) Discussion? All in all, using the active file as a reference is a simple, yet elegant part of the solution. --Bob Tracy AT&T Network & Data Systems Oklahoma City Works {most AT&T sites}!occrsh!rct
rs@mirror.UUCP (02/06/87)
>/* Written 11:33 am Feb 3, 1987 by rct@occrsh.UUCP in mirror:news.software.notes */ >In article <224400003@mirror> rs@mirror.UUCP writes: >> Rick Adams made a casual(?) comment at Usenix that provides the >> right way to handle this situation: have the news->notes gateway >> ignore any groups it can't find in /usr/lib/news/active. > >This assumes that the news software and the notes software exist on the >same machine, or at least that the active file is conveniently accessible You can't do a news/notes gateway without having both new and notes existing on the same machine. Rich $alz "Drug tests p**s me off" Mirror Systems, Cambridge Massachusetts rs@mirror.TMC.COM {adelie, mit-eddie, ihnp4, harvard!wjh12, cca, cbosgd, seismo}!mirror!rs
authorplaceholder@occrsh.UUCP.UUCP (02/09/87)
/* Written 9:26 am Feb 6, 1987 by rs@mirror.UUCP in occrsh.UUCP:news.sw.notes */
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You can't do a news/notes gateway without having both new and notes existing
on the same machine.
Rich $alz "Drug tests p**s me off"
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Begging thy pardon, but since the gateway software rests entirely on
the notes side of things, any notes site that receives its feed from
a news site is performing the gateway function. The news site doesn't
know or care what the site it's feeding looks like. Now, whether the
news site elects to process updates from the notes site is another
matter altogether :-). Before I installed news on this machine, I
was performing the gateway function for att.*: att.* was being fed to
occrsh by a news site, and the balance of the groups were being fed
from a notes site. The notes feeder site subsequently converted to
news, and since notes can't send to more than one news site, that
forced me to load news on my machine.
--Bob Tracy AT&T Network & Data Systems Oklahoma City Works
{most AT&T sites}!occrsh!rct