[news.software.notes] What is the latest version of notes, and how do you get it?

gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) (07/31/87)

In "USENET Software: History and Sources" in news.admin, Spaf posted:
> "notes" is a software package popular at some sites.  It uses a
> different internal organization of articles, and a different
> interchange format than that of the standard Usenet software.  It was
> inspired by the notesfiles available in the PLATO system and was
> developed independently from the Usenet news.  Eventually, the "notes"
> network and Usenet were joined via gateways doing (sometimes imperfect)
> protocol translation. The interface for "notes" is similar to "rn" but
> implements different features, many of which are dictated by its
> internal organization.  "notes" was written in 1980-1981 by Ray Essick
> and Rob Kolstad, grad students at the University of Illinois at
> Urbana-Champaign.  The first public release of "notes" was at the
> January 1982 Usenix conference.  The current release of notes is
> allegedly version 2.7.

A few months ago I tried to find a current copy of notesfiles for Steve
Blasingame at site "gorgo", because I noticed that all his postings
seemed to come from "gorgo!authorplaceholder".  I was not successful.
I'm finally getting around to asking the whole notes community what the
current version of notes is, and how to get it.  Please send the info
to me and to gorgo!bsteve if you can get to there, and especially to
gatech!spaf so he can include the information in the "Usenet software"
monthly posting excerpted above.  You might also post the info here so
that the other notes sites will figure out how to upgrade to the latest
rev if they choose to.

If you have been hacking the code a lot, post here and then all such
people can communicate privately to figure out whose is really the
latest & greatest.
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rsalz@bbn.com (Richard Salz) (07/31/87)

The "official" maintainers and releasers (sic) of notes is, as it always
has been, the folks at UofI.  An article posted last evening contains
some nifty notes patches (I should know, I first made them).  I don't
know the message-id of that article, but who cares?  Look in the batch
of comp.sources.unix articles that recently arrived on your machine.
If you can't do that, contact uiucdcs!paul.

There is also an edition of notes written by Walter Bender at HP.  This
supposedly stores all the news headers in the notes database, making it
"better" as a Usenet citizen, etc.  I've never been able to get a copy
of this code.

While I was at Mirror I made several changes to the notes gateway code,
etc.  All these were posted here, and sent back to Ray Essick, the last
official contact I had.
	/r$
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msf@amelia (Michael S. Fischbein) (07/31/87)

Try anonymous ftp to a.cs.uiuc.edu.  They have it as tar and as compressed
tar.
		mike

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These are my opinions and not necessarily official views of any
organization.

tj@hemaneh.uucp (Central Area MTS) (08/09/87)

Yes, it is not clear that anyone is maintaining Notesfiles. I know
we've been using notes quite a bit internally down here and i've
recently started gatewaying notes and news here in dallas, though 
i've had a few problems. i've been hacking on notesfiles a lot
so if you are starting up a list, add me.
	thanks
		cal

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