lamy@ai.toronto.edu (03/08/87)
Both messages below took the same route after reaching 'clyde'. One reached 'clyde' via 'cbatt' and like all other messages I've seen coming through there, a .UUCP has been tacked willy-nilly to the return address. This is clearly wrong. The other one reached 'clyde' from 'bellcore' and half a dozen other sites yet has a proper return address. Erik Fair can attest that the messages leave the UCB gateway with a sensible address. From what I can see a large percentage of our news (the west coast traffic and most gatewayed groups) seem to reach us via 'cbatt', and I would presume that all sites downstream of watmath and utzoo may be experiencing the same thing. Apologies in advance if I am barking up the wrong tree. Jean-Francois Lamy lamy@ai.toronto.edu (CSNet, UUCP) AI Group, Dept of Computer Science, lamy@ai.toronto.cdn (EAN) University of Toronto, Ont, Canada M5S 1A4 lamy@ai.utoronto (Bitnet) ------- Forwarded Messages (Headers only) Path: utegc!utcsri!utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!JUNE.CS.WASHINGTON.EDU!jon Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Conference - Computing and Society in Seattle, Preceding AAAI Message-ID: <8703031659.AA23808@june.cs.washington.edu> Date: 3 Mar 87 16:59:31 GMT Article-I.D.: june.8703031659.AA23808 Posted: Tue Mar 3 11:59:31 1987 Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 67 Approved: ailist@sri-stripe.arpa ------- Message 2 Path: utegc!utcsri!utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!bellcore!faline!ulysses!gatech!mcnc!seismo!brl-adm!adm!bzs@bu-cs.bu.EDU Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Removal from mailing list Message-ID: <4738@brl-adm.ARPA> Date: 5 Mar 87 00:39:21 GMT Article-I.D.: brl-adm.4738 Posted: Wed Mar 4 19:39:21 1987 Sender: news@brl-adm.ARPA Lines: 10 ------- End of Forwarded Messages
fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (03/12/87)
>------- Forwarded Messages (Headers only) > >Path: utegc!utcsri!utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ucbvax!JUNE.CS.WASHINGTON.EDU!jon >Newsgroups: mod.ai >Subject: Conference - Computing and Society in Seattle, Preceding AAAI >Message-ID: <8703031659.AA23808@june.cs.washington.edu> >Date: 3 Mar 87 16:59:31 GMT >Article-I.D.: june.8703031659.AA23808 >Posted: Tue Mar 3 11:59:31 1987 >Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU >Distribution: world >Organization: The ARPA Internet >Lines: 67 >Approved: ailist@sri-stripe.arpa > Ah, it is clear for all to see. Note, the missing "From:", the presence of "Posted:" and "Article-I.D.:" Clear as the light of day. Obviously, there is a site that 1. is still running B news 2.9 (may that system get terminal bit rot on its disks!) or 2. has the B news 2.9 compat code still compiled in. What needs to be done is to send a lynch mob around to the office of the system administrator of each system, and determine which of the two possibilities is occuring. If #1, lynch the offender on the spot, without mercy and burn the computer to the ground. B news 2.9 was squashed YEARS ago, or so we of the Grand Backbone Cabal thought. If it's #2, stand over the admin while he #undefines OLD, recompiles and re-installs his netnews. If he refuses, lynch him on the spot, without mercy... I think we can eliminate the backbone sites involved (ucbvax, cbatt, clyde) which neatly leaves the problem on strictly Canadian soil, at either the U of Waterloo, or the U of Toronto. utegc utcsri utzoo utgpu water watnot watmath I'm also more than willing to bet that it's not utzoo, despite the fact that Henry Spencer is known to be a somewhat subversive character... NNTP service with a :-} Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu
rjwhite@watmath.UUCP (03/13/87)
> which neatly leaves the problem on strictly Canadian soil, at > either the U of Waterloo, or the U of Toronto. all waterloo machines are running 2.11 news. 'OLD' is not compiled in. -rj
henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (03/13/87)
> Ah, it is clear for all to see. Note, the missing "From:", the > presence of "Posted:" and "Article-I.D.:" Clear as the light of day. > ... > I think we can eliminate the backbone sites involved (ucbvax, cbatt, > clyde) which neatly leaves the problem on strictly Canadian soil, at > either the U of Waterloo, or the U of Toronto. I can shorten the list a good deal further, because the article has a "From:" line here. (It also has "Posted:" and "Article-I.D.:" lines... our inews *is* rather old... but it's not a 2.9 and there's no -DOLD!) So the problem is at utcsri or utegc, and the Waterloo sys admins can stop nervously watching for lynch mobs. :-) > I'm also more than willing to bet that it's not utzoo, despite the fact > that Henry Spencer is known to be a somewhat subversive character... Thanks (I think) for the vote of confidence. -- "We must choose: the stars or Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology the dust. Which shall it be?" {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry