jef@unisoft.uucp (Jef Poskanzer) (09/05/87)
A few months ago there was some noise made about messages leaking out of the Internet NNTP world and into the junk newsgroups of Usenet at large. After that, the junk tapered off for a while, but recently it has come back in force. I looked in our junk directory and found 70 articles, none of them cross-posted, addressed to the following newsgroups: 17 comp.ai.vision 12 comp.sys.handhelds 6 comp.theory.cell-automata 6 comp.lang.postscript 5 comp.lang.scheme 3 soc.culture.japan 3 comp.sys.transputer 3 comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt 2 sci.lang.japan 2 news.software.nntp 2 comp.theory 2 comp.sys.encore 2 comp.ai.neural-nets 1 sci.psychology 1 sci.math.num-analysis 1 comp.sys.zenith.z100 1 comp.sys.xerox 1 comp.periphs.printers I don't know whether all of these are from NNTP-land, but obviously some of them are. The distributions were as follows: 39 <none> 22 world 7 usa 2 na I've appended the relevant lines from the headers, in case anyone wants to look into this in detail. --- Jef Jef Poskanzer unisoft!jef@ucbvax.Berkeley.Edu ...ucbvax!unisoft!jef "Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." -- Lily Tomlin ...and now, a word from our sponsor: "The opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of UniSoft Corp, its staff, or its management." - - - - - - - - - - Date: 17 Aug 87 22:08:49 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <439@louie.udel.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!rochester!udel!montgome Date: 18 Aug 87 06:47:24 GMT Message-ID: <4779@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!violet.berkeley.edu!izumi Date: 18 Aug 87 13:43:45 GMT Message-ID: <1471@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!mit-amt!mit-atrp!sem Date: 18 Aug 87 20:59:24 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <178@buengc.BU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.encore Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!bu-cs!buengc!wtm Date: 18 Aug 87 18:40:41 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <4135@oberon.USC.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!oberon!poisson.usc.edu!mlinar Date: 18 Aug 87 22:04:22 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4140@oberon.USC.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!oberon!robiner Date: 18 Aug 87 19:22:08 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <406@hyper.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!umnd-cs!umn-cs!hyper!dean Date: 19 Aug 87 16:03:55 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <21671@lll-tis.arpa> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!carlson Date: 19 Aug 87 16:56:12 GMT Message-ID: <1500@sol.ARPA> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!rochester!daemon Date: 19 Aug 87 17:46:39 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <6614@eddie.MIT.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!umnd-cs!rutgers!mit-eddie!rassilon Date: 19 Aug 87 17:05:54 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <441@louie.udel.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!rochester!udel!montgome Date: 19 Aug 87 17:05:04 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2706@husc6.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!husc6!husc7!edwards Date: 19 Aug 87 19:14:38 GMT Message-ID: <2705@uwmcsd1.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ll-xn!husc6!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!zark Date: 19 Aug 87 23:08:21 GMT Message-ID: <6620@eddie.MIT.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!rassilon Date: 19 Aug 87 22:37:10 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3690@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!elroy!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!ssnyder Date: 20 Aug 87 01:44:45 GMT Message-ID: <3728@ecsvax.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!mcnc!ecsvax!tcamp Date: 20 Aug 87 02:50:55 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3694@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!odea Date: 19 Aug 87 17:31:23 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4144@oberon.USC.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!oberon!othello.usc.edu!barad Date: 19 Aug 87 23:22:27 GMT Message-ID: <4146@oberon.USC.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!oberon!robiner Date: 20 Aug 87 04:21:46 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <12118@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!husc6!bu-cs!tower Date: 20 Aug 87 05:05:25 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2706@uwmcsd1.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!zark Date: 19 Aug 87 09:34:39 GMT Message-ID: <593@its63b.ed.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.transputer Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!ukc!its63b!gvw Date: 19 Aug 87 14:16:57 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <668@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.theory Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!strath-cs!craig Date: 20 Aug 87 08:09:41 GMT Message-ID: <1525@sol.ARPA> Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!rochester!ken Date: 20 Aug 87 09:27:19 GMT Message-ID: <341@prlb2.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!mcvax!prlb2!ronse Date: 20 Aug 87 09:33:14 GMT Message-ID: <342@prlb2.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!mcvax!prlb2!ronse Date: 20 Aug 87 14:33:49 GMT Message-ID: <1532@sol.ARPA> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!rochester!daemon Date: 21 Aug 87 00:46:59 GMT Message-ID: <3474@latcs1.oz> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!uunet!munnari!mulga!ditmela!latcs1!suter Date: 21 Aug 87 12:47:37 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <1577@botter.cs.vu.nl> Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!botter!roelw Date: 21 Aug 87 14:11:56 GMT Message-ID: <1019@vanhalen.rutgers.edu> Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!vanhalen.rutgers.edu!pratt Date: 21 Aug 87 16:27:47 GMT Message-ID: <4851@utah-cs.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.theory Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!husc6!ut-sally!utah-cs!shebs Date: 21 Aug 87 18:09:02 GMT Message-ID: <15931@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA> Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!husc6!sri-unix!teknowledge-vaxc!mkhaw Date: 21 Aug 87 18:09:02 GMT Message-ID: <15931@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA> Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!rutgers!husc6!sri-unix!teknowledge-vaxc!mkhaw Date: 21 Aug 87 19:42:07 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <20220@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ucbcad!zen!ucbvax!dewey.soe.berkeley.edu!matkins Date: 23 Aug 87 01:44:56 GMT Distribution: na Message-ID: <2229@xanth.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!husc6!rutgers!mcnc!xanth!kahn Date: 26 Aug 87 19:19:45 GMT Message-ID: <655@senilix.liu.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.transputer Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!sri-spam!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!enea!liuida!pum1 Date: 26 Aug 87 12:07:54 GMT Message-ID: <871@klipper.cs.vu.nl> Newsgroups: sci.psychology Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!botter!klipper!biep Date: 26 Aug 87 18:50:35 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <3772@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!beckenba Date: 24 Aug 87 16:56:13 GMT Message-ID: <936@titan.camcon.uucp> Newsgroups: comp.sys.transputer Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!aurora!labrea!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!ukc!stc!idec!camcon!anc Date: 27 Aug 87 13:33:11 GMT Message-ID: <6672@eddie.MIT.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!aurora!labrea!rutgers!mit-eddie!rich Date: 29 Aug 87 16:55:22 GMT Message-ID: <14305@topaz.rutgers.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith.z100 Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!wchao Date: 30 Aug 87 23:54:41 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <20372@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!john@renoir.Berkeley.EDU Date: 31 Aug 87 15:21:50 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <37@viper.Lynx.MN.Org> Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!husc6!rutgers!dayton!viper!dave Date: 28 Aug 87 13:59:19 GMT Message-ID: <965@dutesta.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!seismo!mcvax!dutrun!dutesta!portier Date: 29 Aug 87 09:33:30 GMT Message-ID: <1246@mhres.mh.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!mcvax!mhres!jv Date: 1 Sep 87 04:25:10 GMT Message-ID: <7171@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!uunet!steinmetz!jesup Date: 31 Aug 87 16:30:45 GMT Message-ID: <2148@umn-cs.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!husc6!uwvax!umnd-cs!umn-cs!umdcs Date: 1 Sep 87 00:52:56 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <29@rpicsb8> Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!cornell!batcomputer!itsgw!nysernic!rpicsb8!csv.rpi.edu!hiebeler Date: 1 Sep 87 21:02:20 GMT Message-ID: <3855@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!elroy!cit-vax!beckenba Date: 1 Sep 87 23:23:17 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <1914@super.upenn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!husc6!rutgers!super.upenn.edu!linc.cis.upenn.edu!brant Date: 2 Sep 87 04:57:17 GMT Message-ID: <16280@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA> Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!husc6!sri-unix!teknowledge-vaxc!mkhaw Date: 2 Sep 87 21:52:55 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <8007@shemp.UCLA.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!ucla-cs!tamir Date: 2 Sep 87 20:20:46 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <4297@oberon.USC.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bbn!oberon!pollux.usc.edu!pgarg Date: 2 Sep 87 23:39:14 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4299@oberon.USC.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bbn!oberon!robiner Date: 3 Sep 87 01:16:47 GMT Distribution: na Message-ID: <2347@xanth.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!seismo!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!decvax!mcnc!xanth!kahn Date: 3 Sep 87 05:55:04 GMT In Message-ID: <8709011503.AA21418@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> kgk@cs.brown.EDU (Keiji Kanazawa) complains: Message-ID: <8709030555.AA20510@ucscf.UCSC.EDU> Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!seismo!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!UCSCF.UCSC.EDU!drseuss Date: 2 Sep 87 16:22:01 GMT Message-ID: <351@prlb2.UUCP> Newsgroups: news.software.nntp Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!aurora!labrea!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!prlb2!marlair Date: 2 Sep 87 09:35:12 GMT Message-ID: <178@dutrun.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!elroy!cit-vax!ucla-cs!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!dutrun!frits Date: 1 Sep 87 10:58:14 GMT Message-ID: <2791@lifia.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!elroy!cit-vax!ucla-cs!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!inria!imag!lifia!jlc Date: 3 Sep 87 09:56:34 GMT Message-ID: <3873@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!elroy!cit-vax!newton Date: 3 Sep 87 12:37:29 GMT Message-ID: <1158@unc.cs.unc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!mcnc!unc!symon Date: 3 Sep 87 14:22:14 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <1163@unc.cs.unc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!mcnc!unc!gauchj Date: 3 Sep 87 15:03:40 GMT Message-ID: <1165@unc.cs.unc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!mcnc!unc!gauchj Date: 3 Sep 87 12:03:27 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <36@rpicsb8> Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!leah!itsgw!nysernic!rpicsb8!csv.rpi.edu!hiebeler Date: 4 Sep 87 00:18:04 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <20447@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Newsgroups: sci.math.num-analysis Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!lbl-csam.arpa!baden Date: 3 Sep 87 22:23:07 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <37@rpicsb8> Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!leah!itsgw!nysernic!rpicsb8!csv.rpi.edu!hiebeler Date: 3 Sep 87 07:23:05 GMT Message-ID: <1261@mhres.mh.nl> Newsgroups: news.software.nntp Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!seismo!mcvax!mhres!jv Date: 4 Sep 87 04:41:21 GMT Message-ID: <20464@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!ernie.Berkeley.EDU!seltzer Date: 2 Sep 87 19:58:53 GMT Message-ID: <113@cnt.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!rosevax!ems!pwcs!quest!cnt!amir Date: 31 Aug 87 17:47:07 GMT Message-ID: <312@pvab.UUCP> Newsgroups: comp.sys.encore Path: 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barnett@vdsvax.steinmetz.UUCP (Bruce G Barnett) (09/08/87)
In article <541@unisoft.UUCP> jef@unisoft.UUCP (Jef Poskanzer) writes: |I looked in our junk directory and found 70 articles, none of them |cross-posted, addressed to the following newsgroups: | | 17 comp.ai.vision etc. This is most likely due to 1. the typical user being unaware that these newsgroups are supossed to have inet distribution instead of world. 2. The difficulty of setting up those newsgroups to be distribution inet, but not world, usa, na, etc. I thought the convention was to gateway the mailing lists to mail.whatever, and was somewhat surprised to see the distributions overlap the name space of comp.- -- Bruce G. Barnett <barnett@ge-crd.ARPA> <barnett@steinmetz.UUCP> uunet!steinmetz!barnett
daveb@eneevax.UUCP (David Bengtson) (09/22/87)
In article <541@unisoft.UUCP> jef@unisoft.UUCP (Jef Poskanzer) writes: >A few months ago there was some noise made about messages leaking out >of the Internet NNTP world and into the junk newsgroups of Usenet at > 12 comp.sys.handhelds ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As I am interested in Handheld Computers, is there any way that I can get access to this Newsgroup from Usenet? Perhaps some kind reader would be able to point me in the correct direction.
msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) (09/22/87)
According to my .newsrc, there is a group comp.sys.handhelds on USENET. Smitty -- Mark Smith (alias Smitty) "Be careful when looking into the distance, RPO 1604, CN 5063 that you do not miss what is right under your nose." New Brunswick, NJ 08903 {backbone}!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!msmith msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu {backbone}!rutgers!unirot!msmith