[news.admin] More NNTP leakage?

jef@unisoft.uucp (Jef Poskanzer) (09/05/87)

A few months ago there was some noise made about messages leaking out
of the Internet NNTP world and into the junk newsgroups of Usenet at
large.  After that, the junk tapered off for a while, but recently it
has come back in force.

I looked in our junk directory and found 70 articles, none of them
cross-posted, addressed to the following newsgroups:

  17 comp.ai.vision
  12 comp.sys.handhelds
   6 comp.theory.cell-automata
   6 comp.lang.postscript
   5 comp.lang.scheme
   3 soc.culture.japan
   3 comp.sys.transputer
   3 comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
   2 sci.lang.japan
   2 news.software.nntp
   2 comp.theory
   2 comp.sys.encore
   2 comp.ai.neural-nets
   1 sci.psychology
   1 sci.math.num-analysis
   1 comp.sys.zenith.z100
   1 comp.sys.xerox
   1 comp.periphs.printers

I don't know whether all of these are from NNTP-land, but obviously some
of them are.  The distributions were as follows:

  39 <none>
  22 world
   7 usa
   2 na

I've appended the relevant lines from the headers, in case anyone wants
to look into this in detail.
---
Jef

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Date: 17 Aug 87 22:08:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <439@louie.udel.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!rochester!udel!montgome

Date: 18 Aug 87 06:47:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4779@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!violet.berkeley.edu!izumi

Date: 18 Aug 87 13:43:45 GMT
Message-ID: <1471@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU>
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!mit-amt!mit-atrp!sem

Date: 18 Aug 87 20:59:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <178@buengc.BU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.encore
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!bu-cs!buengc!wtm

Date: 18 Aug 87 18:40:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <4135@oberon.USC.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!oberon!poisson.usc.edu!mlinar

Date: 18 Aug 87 22:04:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4140@oberon.USC.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!oberon!robiner

Date: 18 Aug 87 19:22:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <406@hyper.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!umnd-cs!umn-cs!hyper!dean

Date: 19 Aug 87 16:03:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21671@lll-tis.arpa>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!carlson

Date: 19 Aug 87 16:56:12 GMT
Message-ID: <1500@sol.ARPA>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!rochester!daemon

Date: 19 Aug 87 17:46:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <6614@eddie.MIT.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!umnd-cs!rutgers!mit-eddie!rassilon

Date: 19 Aug 87 17:05:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <441@louie.udel.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!rochester!udel!montgome

Date: 19 Aug 87 17:05:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2706@husc6.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!husc6!husc7!edwards

Date: 19 Aug 87 19:14:38 GMT
Message-ID: <2705@uwmcsd1.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ll-xn!husc6!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!zark

Date: 19 Aug 87 23:08:21 GMT
Message-ID: <6620@eddie.MIT.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!rassilon

Date: 19 Aug 87 22:37:10 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3690@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!elroy!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!ssnyder

Date: 20 Aug 87 01:44:45 GMT
Message-ID: <3728@ecsvax.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!mcnc!ecsvax!tcamp

Date: 20 Aug 87 02:50:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3694@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!odea

Date: 19 Aug 87 17:31:23 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4144@oberon.USC.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!oberon!othello.usc.edu!barad

Date: 19 Aug 87 23:22:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4146@oberon.USC.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!oberon!robiner

Date: 20 Aug 87 04:21:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <12118@bu-cs.BU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!husc6!bu-cs!tower

Date: 20 Aug 87 05:05:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2706@uwmcsd1.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!zark

Date: 19 Aug 87 09:34:39 GMT
Message-ID: <593@its63b.ed.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.transputer
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!ukc!its63b!gvw

Date: 19 Aug 87 14:16:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <668@stracs.cs.strath.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!strath-cs!craig

Date: 20 Aug 87 08:09:41 GMT
Message-ID: <1525@sol.ARPA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!rochester!ken

Date: 20 Aug 87 09:27:19 GMT
Message-ID: <341@prlb2.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!mcvax!prlb2!ronse

Date: 20 Aug 87 09:33:14 GMT
Message-ID: <342@prlb2.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!mcvax!prlb2!ronse

Date: 20 Aug 87 14:33:49 GMT
Message-ID: <1532@sol.ARPA>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!rochester!daemon

Date: 21 Aug 87 00:46:59 GMT
Message-ID: <3474@latcs1.oz>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!uunet!munnari!mulga!ditmela!latcs1!suter

Date: 21 Aug 87 12:47:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1577@botter.cs.vu.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!botter!roelw

Date: 21 Aug 87 14:11:56 GMT
Message-ID: <1019@vanhalen.rutgers.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!vanhalen.rutgers.edu!pratt

Date: 21 Aug 87 16:27:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4851@utah-cs.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!husc6!ut-sally!utah-cs!shebs

Date: 21 Aug 87 18:09:02 GMT
Message-ID: <15931@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!husc6!sri-unix!teknowledge-vaxc!mkhaw

Date: 21 Aug 87 18:09:02 GMT
Message-ID: <15931@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!rutgers!husc6!sri-unix!teknowledge-vaxc!mkhaw

Date: 21 Aug 87 19:42:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <20220@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ucbcad!zen!ucbvax!dewey.soe.berkeley.edu!matkins

Date: 23 Aug 87 01:44:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2229@xanth.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!husc6!rutgers!mcnc!xanth!kahn

Date: 26 Aug 87 19:19:45 GMT
Message-ID: <655@senilix.liu.se>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.transputer
Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!sri-spam!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!enea!liuida!pum1

Date: 26 Aug 87 12:07:54 GMT
Message-ID: <871@klipper.cs.vu.nl>
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!botter!klipper!biep

Date: 26 Aug 87 18:50:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3772@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!cit-vax!beckenba

Date: 24 Aug 87 16:56:13 GMT
Message-ID: <936@titan.camcon.uucp>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.transputer
Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!aurora!labrea!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!ukc!stc!idec!camcon!anc

Date: 27 Aug 87 13:33:11 GMT
Message-ID: <6672@eddie.MIT.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!aurora!labrea!rutgers!mit-eddie!rich

Date: 29 Aug 87 16:55:22 GMT
Message-ID: <14305@topaz.rutgers.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith.z100
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!wchao

Date: 30 Aug 87 23:54:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20372@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!john@renoir.Berkeley.EDU

Date: 31 Aug 87 15:21:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37@viper.Lynx.MN.Org>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Path: unisoft!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!husc6!rutgers!dayton!viper!dave

Date: 28 Aug 87 13:59:19 GMT
Message-ID: <965@dutesta.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!seismo!mcvax!dutrun!dutesta!portier

Date: 29 Aug 87 09:33:30 GMT
Message-ID: <1246@mhres.mh.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!mcvax!mhres!jv

Date: 1 Sep 87 04:25:10 GMT
Message-ID: <7171@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!ut-sally!seismo!uunet!steinmetz!jesup

Date: 31 Aug 87 16:30:45 GMT
Message-ID: <2148@umn-cs.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!husc6!uwvax!umnd-cs!umn-cs!umdcs

Date: 1 Sep 87 00:52:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29@rpicsb8>
Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!cornell!batcomputer!itsgw!nysernic!rpicsb8!csv.rpi.edu!hiebeler

Date: 1 Sep 87 21:02:20 GMT
Message-ID: <3855@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!elroy!cit-vax!beckenba

Date: 1 Sep 87 23:23:17 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1914@super.upenn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!husc6!rutgers!super.upenn.edu!linc.cis.upenn.edu!brant

Date: 2 Sep 87 04:57:17 GMT
Message-ID: <16280@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!husc6!sri-unix!teknowledge-vaxc!mkhaw

Date: 2 Sep 87 21:52:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <8007@shemp.UCLA.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!rutgers!ucla-cs!tamir

Date: 2 Sep 87 20:20:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <4297@oberon.USC.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bbn!oberon!pollux.usc.edu!pgarg

Date: 2 Sep 87 23:39:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4299@oberon.USC.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bbn!oberon!robiner

Date: 3 Sep 87 01:16:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2347@xanth.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!seismo!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!decvax!mcnc!xanth!kahn

Date: 3 Sep 87 05:55:04 GMT
In Message-ID: <8709011503.AA21418@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> kgk@cs.brown.EDU (Keiji Kanazawa) complains:
Message-ID: <8709030555.AA20510@ucscf.UCSC.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!seismo!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!UCSCF.UCSC.EDU!drseuss

Date: 2 Sep 87 16:22:01 GMT
Message-ID: <351@prlb2.UUCP>
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!aurora!labrea!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!prlb2!marlair

Date: 2 Sep 87 09:35:12 GMT
Message-ID: <178@dutrun.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!elroy!cit-vax!ucla-cs!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!dutrun!frits

Date: 1 Sep 87 10:58:14 GMT
Message-ID: <2791@lifia.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!elroy!cit-vax!ucla-cs!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!inria!imag!lifia!jlc

Date: 3 Sep 87 09:56:34 GMT
Message-ID: <3873@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>
Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!elroy!cit-vax!newton

Date: 3 Sep 87 12:37:29 GMT
Message-ID: <1158@unc.cs.unc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!mcnc!unc!symon

Date: 3 Sep 87 14:22:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1163@unc.cs.unc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!mcnc!unc!gauchj

Date: 3 Sep 87 15:03:40 GMT
Message-ID: <1165@unc.cs.unc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.ai.vision
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!mcnc!unc!gauchj

Date: 3 Sep 87 12:03:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36@rpicsb8>
Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!leah!itsgw!nysernic!rpicsb8!csv.rpi.edu!hiebeler

Date: 4 Sep 87 00:18:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <20447@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Newsgroups: sci.math.num-analysis
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!lbl-csam.arpa!baden

Date: 3 Sep 87 22:23:07 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37@rpicsb8>
Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sri-spam!sri-unix!husc6!uwvax!uwmacc!uwmcsd1!leah!itsgw!nysernic!rpicsb8!csv.rpi.edu!hiebeler

Date: 3 Sep 87 07:23:05 GMT
Message-ID: <1261@mhres.mh.nl>
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!seismo!mcvax!mhres!jv

Date: 4 Sep 87 04:41:21 GMT
Message-ID: <20464@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!ernie.Berkeley.EDU!seltzer

Date: 2 Sep 87 19:58:53 GMT
Message-ID: <113@cnt.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!rosevax!ems!pwcs!quest!cnt!amir

Date: 31 Aug 87 17:47:07 GMT
Message-ID: <312@pvab.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.encore
Path: unisoft!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!elroy!cit-vax!oberon!bloom-beacon!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!seismo!mcvax!enea!pvab!robert

barnett@vdsvax.steinmetz.UUCP (Bruce G Barnett) (09/08/87)

In article <541@unisoft.UUCP> jef@unisoft.UUCP (Jef Poskanzer) writes:
|I looked in our junk directory and found 70 articles, none of them
|cross-posted, addressed to the following newsgroups:
|
|  17 comp.ai.vision

	etc.

This is most likely due to 
	1. the typical user being unaware that these newsgroups
	   are supossed to have inet distribution instead of world.
	2. The difficulty of setting up those newsgroups to be
	   distribution inet, but not world, usa, na, etc.

I thought the convention was to gateway the mailing lists to
	mail.whatever, and was somewhat surprised to see the
	distributions overlap the name space of comp.-
 
	
-- 
	Bruce G. Barnett 	<barnett@ge-crd.ARPA> <barnett@steinmetz.UUCP>
				uunet!steinmetz!barnett

daveb@eneevax.UUCP (David Bengtson) (09/22/87)

In article <541@unisoft.UUCP> jef@unisoft.UUCP (Jef Poskanzer) writes:
>A few months ago there was some noise made about messages leaking out
>of the Internet NNTP world and into the junk newsgroups of Usenet at

>  12 comp.sys.handhelds
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As I am interested in Handheld Computers, is there any way that I can get 
access to this Newsgroup from Usenet? Perhaps some kind reader would be
able to point me in the correct direction. 

msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) (09/22/87)

According to my .newsrc, there is a group comp.sys.handhelds on
USENET.
Smitty
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