ps@diab.UUCP (Per-Erik Sundberg) (10/27/87)
Hello everyone! I am busy implementing NFS on our machines. Last week I found out about something interesting called the "NFS Connectathon": + The NFS Connectathon will be held January 11-15 in Silicon Valley, CA. + The purpose of the Connectathon is to allow vendors to test their NFS + implementations as client and server to every other machine present. Questions: 1. Does anyone out there in netland have experience with this type of event? Can you recommend it? 2. Does your company plan to participate at this event? Please let me know! The usual thanx etcetera. -- Per-Erik Sundberg, Diab Data AB SNAIL: Box 2029, S-183 02 Taby, Sweden ANALOG: +46 8-7680660 UUCP: mcvax!enea!diab!ps
mash@mips.UUCP (John Mashey) (10/30/87)
In article <317@diab.UUCP> ps@diab.UUCP (Per-Erik Sundberg) writes: >Hello everyone! > I am busy implementing NFS on our machines. Last week I found >out about something interesting called the "NFS Connectathon": ...... >Questions: >1. Does anyone out there in netland have experience with this type > of event? Can you recommend it? >2. Does your company plan to participate at this event? Please let > me know! MIPS Computer Systems participated last year. It was extremely useful - people traded all sorts of problem-solving help, and had a lot of fun. In addition, Sun did a great job organizing it, providing facilities and assistance. If you're doing NFS, you really ought to be there. -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: <generic disclaimer, I speak for me only, etc> UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
gordon@prls.UUCP (Gordon Vickers) (10/30/87)
In article <859@winchester.UUCP> mash@winchester.UUCP (John Mashey) writes: ->In article <317@diab.UUCP> ps@diab.UUCP (Per-Erik Sundberg) writes: -> ->Hello everyone! -> -> I am busy implementing NFS on our machines. Last week I found ->out about something interesting called the "NFS Connectathon": -> ...... -> ->Questions: ->1. Does anyone out there in netland have experience with this type -> of event? Can you recommend it? ->2. Does your company plan to participate at this event? Please let -> me know! -> ->MIPS Computer Systems participated last year. It was extremely ->useful - people traded all sorts of problem-solving help, and had a lot ->of fun. In addition, Sun did a great job organizing it, providing ->facilities and assistance. -> ->If you're doing NFS, you really ought to be there. ->-- ->-john mashey DISCLAIMER: <generic disclaimer, I speak for me only, etc> ->UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com ->DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 ->USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 Sounds interesting but, Where ? When ? How ? Economic impact ? Thank-you.
geoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top) (11/01/87)
The NFS Connectathon is organized each year by Sun on behalf of
the NFS vendors group. Invitations are extended to all commercial
NFS licensees (both those who have licensed the code and those who have
registered their intent to use the NFS trademark). It is not a public
event: we try to restrict attendance to just those engineers who are
working on the actual implementations. Partly this is so we can
get the work done (N x N testing takes a lot of time and energy);
partly this is because (for example) some folks have been known to take
exception to cooperative work when the cooperation is with someone from
a competitor...
The most immediate and visible end product of Connectathon is the
success of the interoperability demonstrated at Uniforum a few weeks
later. The real benefits are to the quality of NFS implementations, the
users of NFS, and NFS as a standard.
If you are building a multivendor standard and are thinking of
organizing something similar to Connectathon, be aware: it's a lot
of work, you HAVE to keep it going every year (this will be the third
Connectathon), and it isn't cheap (to organize or participate in). On
the other hand, I don't think you can afford NOT to do something like this.
By the way, though my .signature says "Sun", I can't claim credit
for any of the hard work that goes into making Connectathon a success.
The bouquets go to the folks in the Portable Software group over
in Mt. View. As far as Connectathon is concerned, PC-NFS is just
another vendor implementation, and we have to prove ourselves afresh
every year.
--
Geoff Arnold, Sun Microsystems |"Dive for diamonds, or shoot for hearts,
East Coast Division(home of PC-NFS)| It's all uncertain, but that's the art.
UUCP:{ihnp4,decwrl,...}!sun!garnold| I never bet on any sure things,
ARPA:garnold@sun.com | Since your five deuces beat my four kings."clara%manray@Sun.COM (Clara Bogas) (11/03/87)
Geoff Arnold has pointed you in the right direction! The Portable NFS group
(subgroup of Portable Products Group) over in Mountain View does indeed
put on the NFS Connectathon every year.
We concur that this is serious work event happening here and the invitation to
participate is extended to all implementors of NFS (public domain and licensed)
who have said business to conduct. Included in the list of about 30
participants this year are several Universities. In addition to Unix
implementations there are 3 for VMS as well as MacIntosh and PC implementations.
The official word follows:
The NFS Connectathon will be held January 11-15 somewhere in Silicon Valley,
California (site not yet determined). Each participating vendor will send
their NFS target machine and development engineers. The purpose of the
Connectathon is to allow vendors to test their NFS implementations as client
and server to every other machine present. Sun engineers from the NFS and
Portable NFS Engineering groups will be present to offer any assistance needed.
By the time of the Connectathon, many vendors should have integrated support
for diskless clients, and we can test that as well. We are also planning to
have available some applications built on RPC/XDR to demonstrate on all the
vendors' machines at Uniforum. If you have or know of any RPC applications
that will run on a heterogeneous network, please contact, Warren Smith,
Manager, Portable NFS Engineering. wsmith@sun.com or sun!wsmith.
Registration forms were mailed to all licensed vendors as well as the public
domain implementors with whom we are familiar. If you wish to participate
please contact us ASAP as the registration deadline is November 13th.
For registration contact: Sally Ahnger, Project Leader, Portable NFS Group
(415) 691-2858 or sun!sahnger or sahger@sun.com
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Clara McKenzie (nee Bogas), Sun Microsystems
Portable NFS Group, Software Products Division
UUCP: {ucbvax, (yournamehere), ...}!sun!clara
ARPA: clara@sun.comgeoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top) (11/03/87)
In article <214@eagle_snax.UUCP>, geoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top) writes: > > The NFS Connectathon is organized each year by Sun on behalf of > the NFS vendors group. Invitations are extended to all commercial > NFS licensees One thing I omitted to mention was that we know there are several independent implementation efforts under way and we would really like to see these represented at Connectathon. If you are working on an NFS implementation and have not received an invitation to Connectathon, please call K.C. Chan Sun Microsystems 415/691-2829 or email me. If you are concerned about confidentiality, let us know: we've handled this in the past. -- Geoff Arnold, Sun Microsystems |"Dive for diamonds, or shoot for hearts, East Coast Division(home of PC-NFS)| It's all uncertain, but that's the art. UUCP:{ihnp4,decwrl,...}!sun!garnold| I never bet on any sure things, ARPA:garnold@sun.com | Since your five deuces beat my four kings."
jk@apple.UUCP (John Kullmann) (11/03/87)
Not only did we (Opus Systems) participate at last years Connectathon, we did our NFS port there(two days for port and three days of testing)!!!! With all that NFS talent in one place how could anyone considering NFS not attend....
mshiels@orchid.waterloo.edu (Michael A. Shiels) (11/03/87)
Is it possible to get documentation on the NFS protocol?? I have the documentation on RFS but I thought NFS was proprietary?? -- Michael A. Shiels (MaS Network Software) mshiels@orchid.waterloo.EDU UUCP: ...path...!watmath!orchid!mshiels
guy%gorodish@Sun.COM (Guy Harris) (11/04/87)
> Is it possible to get documentation on the NFS protocol?? I have the > documentation on RFS but I thought NFS was proprietary?? Proprietary? Absolutely not! The Sun RPC protocol spec, and the NFS protocol spec describing how NFS uses the Sun RPC mechanism, are publicly available. One way of getting them is to buy a Sun; both protocol specs come in the Docucrate, err, sorry, I meant Docubox that comes with your machine. I believe they are also available if you don't buy a Sun; anybody from our Portable NFS group care to comment? I believe Apollo's NFS implementation was done from the protocol spec, not from the code. If you want the code, we will sell you the code for an implementation on top of 4.something BSD, and Lachman Associates will sell you the code for an implementation on top of the standard S5R2 or S5R3 distribution. Guy Harris {ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy guy@sun.com
rick@seismo.CSS.GOV (Rick Adams) (11/05/87)
The current Sun Price list shows item "NFS-SPECS" for sale for $50. Your Sun sales office should be abel to sell it to you. --rick
root@sbcs (Root) (11/06/87)
In article <32909@sun.uucp>, guy%gorodish@Sun.COM (Guy Harris) writes: > > I believe Apollo's NFS implementation was done from the protocol spec, not from > the code. If you want the code, we will sell you the code for an I co-authored a client only implementation of NFS for the Amiga personal computer - the port was done entirely from the published RPC & NFS specs. Note that one used to be able to call the NFS group and (for a nominal charge: ~$60) get a tape & stack of porting documents for NFS/RPC/XDR. > Guy Harris > {ihnp4, decvax, seismo, decwrl, ...}!sun!guy > guy@sun.com Rick Spanbauer SUNY/Stony Brook (& Ameristar)
mouse@mcgill-vision.UUCP (der Mouse) (11/20/87)
In article <11513@orchid.waterloo.edu>, mshiels@orchid.waterloo.edu (Michael A. Shiels) writes: > Is it possible to get documentation on the NFS protocol?? I have the > documentation on RFS but I thought NFS was proprietary?? The NFS spec is freely available. Sun prints the entire spec in their manuals, with a little statement about how others are encouraged to develop their own implementations of it. (If you want specifics about which manual, send me mail and I'll dig it out.) The information in the manual is (almost?) sufficient to build an implementation; it was certainly enough for me to build an NFS server for 4.3. der Mouse (mouse@mcgill-vision.uucp)