tom@tsdiag.UUCP (11/23/87)
What is the problem with Chaosnet? Any ideas when/if it will be fixed? ------------------------------------- [Message was posted to rec.ham-radio.packet, this is an error reply, I tried [incorrectly] to ask the postmaster about it... it got bounced too...] >From uucp Fri Nov 20 05:10 EST 1987 >From uucp Fri Nov 20 04:02 EST 1987 remote from pedsga >From uucp Fri Nov 20 03:59:30 1987 remote from petsd >From oz.ai.mit.edu!mit-eddie!@EDDIE.MIT.EDU:Mailer Fri Nov 20 02:49:01 1987 remote from rutgers Received: by RUTGERS.EDU (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA06050; Fri, 20 Nov 87 02:49:01 EST Received: from oz.ai.mit.edu by EDDIE.MIT.EDU via Chaosnet with MAIL with sendmail-5.45/4.7 id <AA25332@EDDIE.MIT.EDU>; Thu, 19 Nov 87 15:35:58 EST Message-Id: <8711192035.AA25332@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu 19 Nov 87 15:36:17-EST >From: The Mailer Daemon <rutgers!oz.ai.mit.edu!Mailer> To: ihnp4!homxb!mtuxo!mtune!petsd!pedsgo!pedsga!tsdiag!tom@eddie.mit.edu Subject: Message of 18-Nov-87 15:12:48 Message undelivered after 1 day -- will try for another 2 days: GZT.TDF@OZ.AI.MIT.EDU.#Chaos: Disk quota exceeded ------------ Received: from EDDIE.MIT.EDU by OZ.AI.MIT.EDU via Chaosnet; 18 Nov 87 15:12-EST Received: by EDDIE.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.45/4.7 id <AA22527@EDDIE.MIT.EDU>; Wed, 18 Nov 87 15:03:36 EST Received: by EDDIE.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.45/4.7 id <AA22499@EDDIE.MIT.EDU>; Wed, 18 Nov 87 15:02:56 EST Received: by june.cs.washington.edu (5.52.1/6.10) id AA09409; Wed, 18 Nov 87 12:04:07 PST From: ihnp4!homxb!mtuxo!mtune!petsd!pedsgo!pedsga!tsdiag!tom@eddie.mit.edu Return-Path: <ihnp4!homxb!mtuxo!mtune!petsd!pedsgo!pedsga!tsdiag!tom@eddie.mit.edu> Message-Id: <8711182004.AA09409@june.cs.washington.edu> Date: 13 Nov 87 15:40:35 GMT To: PACKET-RADIO@EDDIE.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Level 3 protocols - some info? Keywords: TCPIP,COSI,NETROM References: <242@ka2qhd.UUCP> ------- Thanks... Thomas A. Moulton, W2VY Life is too short to be mad about things. Home: (201) 779-W2VY Packet: w2vy@kd6th Voice: 145.190 (r) Work: (201) 492-4880 x3226 FAX: (201) 493-9167 Concurrent Computer Corp. uucp: ...!ihnp4!hotps!ka2qhd!w2vy -- Thomas A. Moulton, W2VY Life is too short to be mad about things. Home: (201) 779-W2VY Packet: w2vy@kd6th Voice: 145.190 (r) Work: (201) 492-4880 x3226 FAX: (201) 493-9167 Concurrent Computer Corp. uucp: ...!ihnp4!hotps!ka2qhd!w2vy
romkey@kaos.UUCP (John Romkey) (11/27/87)
In article <140@tsdiag.UUCP> tom@tsdiag.UUCP writes: >What is the problem with Chaosnet? > >Message undelivered after 1 day -- will try for another 2 days: >GZT.TDF@OZ.AI.MIT.EDU.#Chaos: Disk quota exceeded This is just a problem with GZT.TDF's account on a machine at MIT called OZ. OZ doesn't speak TCP/IP; it speaks Chaosnet. The message is saying that GZT.TDF's disk quota is all used up...probably because he hasn't logged in since Sunday, September 6. -- - john romkey ...mit-eddie!blblbl!kaos!romkey romkey@xx.lcs.mit.edu
jso@edison.GE.COM (John Owens) (11/28/87)
In article <140@tsdiag.UUCP>, tom@tsdiag.UUCP writes: > What is the problem with Chaosnet? > Any ideas when/if it will be fixed? > ------------------------------------- > Message undelivered after 1 day -- will try for another 2 days: > GZT.TDF@OZ.AI.MIT.EDU.#Chaos: Disk quota exceeded On many systems, mail is delivered to users in files in their own directories, charged to their quotas. When the user is over quota, the mail can't be delivered. I'd be willing to bet that this is the problem here, and that it's TDF's problem, not the system's. (You might want to ask the postmaster to let him know that he's over quota, though....)
tom@tsdiag.UUCP (11/30/87)
Fine, I take it they are just a small subnet. I guess if they fed a large part of the net they would have been fixed by now... Thanks -- Thomas A. Moulton, W2VY Life is too short to be mad about things. Home: (201) 779-W2VY Packet: w2vy@kd6th Voice: 145.190 (r) Work: (201) 492-4880 x3226 FAX: (201) 493-9167 Concurrent Computer Corp. uucp: ...!ihnp4!hotps!ka2qhd!w2vy
fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (11/30/87)
There are two problems here: 1. rec.ham-radio.packet is gatewayed to an ARPANET mailing list improperly, that is, the gatewayer's software doesn't hack the headers so that the people on USENET don't get errors from the mailing list. Errors from a mailing list should be going to the mailing list administrator, not to some powerless USENET reader. The particular error in question is certainly grounds to delete that mailbox from the list, if the list admin ever finds out about it... 2. TOPS-20's mailer has an incredible piece of brain-damage in it: it will tell you every 24 hours (until timeout) about a piece of mail that it can't deliver. I say, "deliver it, or bounce it, but SHUT UP, dammit!" The solution in this case is to bitch at the parties responsible for the gatewaying. If they fix their software, you need never see an error from ARPANET again. Of course, if you think that ARPANET is bad, you should see the crap I've been getting from BITNET's LISTSERV distribution system... Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu
karl@tut.UUCP (12/01/87)
jso@edison.GE.COM writes: > GZT.TDF@OZ.AI.MIT.EDU.#Chaos: Disk quota exceeded (You might want to ask the postmaster to let him know that he's over quota, though....) gzt.tdf@oz.ai.mit.edu is on a mailing list I manage, and I was getting the same error messages by the half dozen for a couple of weeks. Requests for help from postmaster@oz were met with dead air. I removed gzt.tdf from the list for the sake of my sanity. -- Karl