erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) (05/01/88)
THIS IS A REPOST. SORRY. I recieved some mail from Robert Granvin. I feel that his comments to me, and my replies are worthy of netdom. The question is brought up of why rec.guns is acceptible while soc.sex is not. In email, rjg@sialis.mn.org (Robert J. Granvin) wrote to me: >In article <586@flatline.UUCP>, erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) writes: >>> In article <3481@gryphon.CTS.COM> richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >>> Yes. Simple. There is nothing wrong with rec.guns. >>Once again, violence, death and murder are not obscene while sex is... >Why must a gun immediately imply violence, death and murder? It doesn't. That was an off the cuff remark that was based on "our" decisions of what the media (from tv to usenet) carry and do not carry. Breasts or genitals cannot be shown on tv, but at any time, I may flip to a channel and watch a show where people try to kill each other for various reasons. >BTW: Most people interested in the rec.guns group are hunters, or >people interested in firearms for marksmanship sport. Odd that people >will find this offensive, while they do not find the exact same >reasonings behind archery offensive. I see nothing wrong with rec.guns. If I still had the $$$, I'd still be collecting weapons. I think it's nice that we (usenet) have a whole newsgroup expressly devoted to howitzers and artillery pieces. Now maybe we can start a rec.firearms to cover rifles and pistols. :-) (In the service, we were taught to never call a rifle or pistol a gun. Artillery are guns. Other things are weapons. :-) >>"I'd rather have my child watch a film of two people making love than of >>two people trying to kill one another." -- John Lennon >Agreed. >Robert J. Granvin >National Information Systems, Inc. >rjg@sialis.mn.org >...uunet!{{amdahl,hpda}!bungia,rosevax}!sialis!rjg -- Just another journalist with too many spare MIPS... "The truth of an opinion is part of its utility." -- John Stuart Mill J. Eric Townsend ->uunet!nuchat!flatline!erict smail:511Parker#2,Hstn,Tx,77007
jwm@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (James Wiley Mills Jr.) (05/03/88)
Before 44444
jwm@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (James Wiley Mills Jr.) (05/03/88)
sorry about the previous posting sometimes my fingers don't follow my brain .. anyway REC.GUNS doesn't promote murder and mahem it is a information group if any of you bleeding heart liberals ever read it anyway you would see what it is all about ..... now back to the regularly scheduled program...... jim.
henry@garp.mit.edu (Henry Mensch) (05/03/88)
erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) wrote:
->The question is brought up of why rec.guns is acceptible while
->soc.sex is not.
That's an easy one: it is socially acceptable to talk about ways to
kill and mutilate people, while it is considered tacky to talk about
making love to them.
Talk about screwed-up priorities!
# Henry Mensch / <henry@garp.mit.edu> / E40-379 MIT, Cambridge, MA
# {ames,cca,decvax,harvard,lotus,mit-eddie,rochester,soft21}!garp!henrywnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) (05/03/88)
henry@garp.mit.edu (Henry Mensch) writes: >erict@flatline.UUCP (eric townsend) wrote: >->The question is brought up of why rec.guns is acceptible while >->soc.sex is not. > >That's an easy one: it is socially acceptable to talk about ways to >kill and mutilate people, while it is considered tacky to talk about >making love to them. As has been stated before, rec.guns is not a discussion of ways to kill anybody; and most recreational sex has very little to do with "love". This is not to say that rec.guns is more valuable or worthy a topic than soc.sex, but to point out the folly of simplistic and naive reductionist statements. -- Wolf N. Paul * 3387 Sam Rayburn Run * Carrollton TX 75007 * (214) 306-9101 UUCP: ihnp4!killer!dcs!wnp ESL: 62832882 INTERNET: wnp@DESEES.DAS.NET or wnp@dcs.UUCP TLX: 910-280-0585 EES PLANO UD
tracer@stb.UUCP (Jeff Boeing) (05/04/88)
In article <1774@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> jwm@ncsuvx.UUCP (James Wiley Mills Jr.) writes: > > sorry about the previous posting sometimes my fingers don't follow my brain > .. anyway REC.GUNS doesn't promote murder and mahem it is a information > group if any of you bleeding heart liberals ever read it anyway you would > see what it is all about ..... now back to the regularly scheduled > program...... > jim. Hmmph. Terrible, terrible, sloppy grammar. Typical of you bleeding heart conservatives. -- Jeff Boeing (which is not my real name) | ...!uunet!stb.uucp!tracer ------------------------------------------|---------------------------- DISCLAIMER: YES! Everything I write ABSOLUTELY reflects the opinions of my employers DOWN TO THE LAST LETTER! Nyaah!
Unknown@stcns3.stc.oz (Dave Horsfall) (05/09/88)
In article <1774@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> jwm@ncsuvx.UUCP (James Wiley Mills Jr.) writes: > sorry about the previous posting sometimes my fingers don't follow my brain And you're a "gun" person? Boy am I glad I'm on the other side of the world from you... -- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU), Alcatel-STC Australia, dave@stcns3.stc.oz dave%stcns3.stc.OZ.AU@uunet.UU.NET, ...munnari!stcns3.stc.OZ.AU!dave