[news.admin] How did this end up here?

weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) (05/26/88)

|Path: agate!eos!ames!amdcad!andante!lcuxlm!whuts!homxb!homxc!yxc
|From: yxc@homxc.UUCP
|Newsgroups: misc.forsale,misc.misc,att.wanted,nj.wanted,misc.wanted
|Subject: Furnished Room for Rent!!
|Message-ID: <2244@homxc.UUCP>
|Date: 24 May 88 13:44:38 GMT
|Distribution: nj

I've always had the impression that AT&T employees don't know how to
use the software, but this fellow obviously did the right thing and
limited his distribution to New Jersey.

What's it doing in California?

ucbvax!garnet!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720

phil@amdcad.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) (05/26/88)

In article <10301@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) writes:
.|Path: agate!eos!ames!amdcad!andante!lcuxlm!whuts!homxb!homxc!yxc
.|From: yxc@homxc.UUCP
.|Newsgroups: misc.forsale,misc.misc,att.wanted,nj.wanted,misc.wanted
.|Subject: Furnished Room for Rent!!
.|Message-ID: <2244@homxc.UUCP.
.|Date: 24 May 88 13:44:38 GMT
.|Distribution: nj
.
.I've always had the impression that AT&T employees don't know how to
.use the software, but this fellow obviously did the right thing and
.limited his distribution to New Jersey.
.
.What's it doing in California?

Because we asked for it. We send ba to NJ and OR, and get nj and or
from andante and tek (or used to, don't know if we still do).
-- 

I speak for myself, not the company.
Phil Ngai, {ucbvax,decwrl,allegra}!amdcad!phil or phil@amd.com

weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) (05/26/88)

In article <21795@amdcad.AMD.COM>, phil@amdcad (Phil Ngai) writes:
>.What's it doing in California?
>
>Because we asked for it. We send ba to NJ and OR, and get nj and or
>from andante and tek (or used to, don't know if we still do).

Well, gee, can I put in an order for PA, and find out how things are
going in the old homestead?  Or how about MA, what with the elections
coming up, it might be interesting to read mass.politics and see what
they say about the big D.

This is too weird.

ucbvax!garnet!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720

") (05/26/88)

weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:
) |Distribution: nj
) 
) What's it doing in California?

Last week I sent out two messages with Distribution: usa and I got
replies back from Europe and Canada.  Go figure.

				Matt

weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) (05/27/88)

>) |Distribution: nj
>) What's it doing in California?

>Last week I sent out two messages with Distribution: usa and I got
>replies back from Europe and Canada.  Go figure.

Two years ago I posted an article with distribution "world" and got a
reply from andromeda.  Small universe.

ucbvax!garnet!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720

richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (05/27/88)

In article <10313@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) writes:
>In article <21795@amdcad.AMD.COM>, phil@amdcad (Phil Ngai) writes:
>>.What's it doing in California?
>>
>>Because we asked for it. We send ba to NJ and OR, and get nj and or
>>from andante and tek (or used to, don't know if we still do).

Was anybody able to translate this ?

>Well, gee, can I put in an order for PA, and find out how things are
>going in the old homestead?  Or how about MA, what with the elections
>coming up, it might be interesting to read mass.politics and see what
>they say about the big D.

While you're at it can I put in a request for can.* and the UK only stuff.
I'd like to keep in touch with the old sod, too.



-- 
       Ricardo Valenzuela 1945-1962. Long may he live in our hearts.
                         And he wasn't a misogynist.
richard@gryphon.CTS.COM                          rutgers!marque!gryphon!richard

henry@garp.mit.edu (Henry Mensch) (05/28/88)

someone wrote:
->>going in the old homestead?  Or how about MA, what with the elections
->>coming up, it might be interesting to read mass.politics and see what
->>they say about the big D.
->

There *is* no mass.politics ... there are a few ne.all groups which
are fairly quiet.

# Henry Mensch  /  <henry@garp.mit.edu>  /  E40-379 MIT,  Cambridge, MA
# {ames,cca,decvax,harvard,lotus,mit-eddie,rochester,soft21}!garp!henry

wisner@eddie.MIT.EDU (Bill Wisner) (05/30/88)

>>>Because we asked for it. We send ba to NJ and OR, and get nj and or
>>>from andante and tek (or used to, don't know if we still do).

>Was anybody able to translate this ?

amdcad sends the ba.all Bay Area newsgroups to tektronix and andante.
tektronix sends or.all (Oregon) to amdcad and andante sends them
nj.all (New Jersey).

..b

bob@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) (06/24/88)

In article <10333@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) writes:
|>) |Distribution: nj
|>) What's it doing in California?
|
|>Last week I sent out two messages with Distribution: usa and I got
|>replies back from Europe and Canada.  Go figure.

A couple of weeks after I created the gateway between info-gnu-* and
gnu.*, Karl decided to try a sendsys in gnu.config.ctl, with
"Distribution: gnu", just to see how far it had spread (impressively
far, it turned out!).  He got back several sys files that didn't
mention gnu at all.

Distribution lines don't seem to be a really reliable way to constrain
the spread of an article.  I don't know why.
-- 
 Bob Sutterfield, Department of Computer and Information Science
 The Ohio State University; 2036 Neil Ave. Columbus OH USA 43210-1277
 bob@cis.ohio-state.edu or ...!{att,pyramid,killer}!cis.ohio-state.edu!bob

wisner@killer.UUCP (Bill "Spam Eggs Sausage and Spam" Wisner) (06/25/88)

>Distribution lines don't seem to be a really reliable way to constrain
>the spread of an article.  I don't know why.

Because there is a disproportionate number of umboheaded or simply
misinformed news administrators who use "all" in their sys files.
-- 
Bill Wisner
..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis,rutgers}!killer!wisner

lyndon@ncc.Nexus.CA (Lyndon Nerenberg) (06/26/88)

In article <16233@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> bob@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) writes:
>
>Distribution lines don't seem to be a really reliable way to constrain
>the spread of an article.  I don't know why.

I am in the process of doing a propagation analysis of the biz distribution,
and noticed the same thing. It seems to be caused (for the most part) by
sites who set up entries for their downstream feeds like this:

downstream:all.all,!local,!local.all,!to.all,to.downstream:F:

I guess the idea is it's easier to restrict a few known (and stable?)
distributions rather than try to stay on top of changes in the entire
group tree.

I don't think this is a good thing, given that alt.all and biz.all should
only be fed on request of the downstream site.

Interestingly enough, most of the sys files I received containing this
type of entry were from AT&T internal sites. Maybe they think it's easier
to maintain things this way. Maybe this is partly to blame for the
increasing amount of "flow through" traffic AT&T is complaining about ?

[ This also explains the not too polite messages I received from a
  few sys admins wanting to know why 'biz' control messages were
  soiling their systems. ]

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{alberta,pyramid,uunet}!ncc!lyndon  lyndon@Nexus.CA