jlfox@cisunx.UUCP (James L Fox) (07/30/88)
I think Mark has some very valid points. In fact, some of Mark's very tight legal reasoning is going to help win a class action suit being filed on behalf of a group of lions (the ones with the long shaggy manes) who feel their rights have been violated long enough! They are claiming that the other kind of lions they live with (the ones with the short hair who are observed more often with the baby lions) have been having all the fun of chasing and killing their dinners for as long as they can remember. They feel they have a right to equal time for hunting EVEN THOUGH it is well known that their short haired partners have evolved more successful hunting skills. Who cares that it took millions of years of genetic evolution to evolve ADAPTIVE gender differences! EQUALITY NOW!! Don't you agree?
zardoz@Apple.COM (Phil Wayne) (08/02/88)
Who ME? Defending MES? Erhhh...well, no one can be consisten all the time... In article <11319@cisunx.UUCP> jlfox@cisunx.UUCP (James L Fox) writes: > >I think Mark has some very valid points. In fact, some of >Mark's very tight legal reasoning is going to help win a class >action suit being filed on behalf of a group of lions >(the ones with the long shaggy manes) who feel their rights have >been violated long enough! They are claiming that the other >kind of lions they live with (the ones with the short hair who >are observed more often with the baby lions) have been having all >the fun of chasing and killing their dinners for as long as they >can remember. They feel they have a right to equal time for >hunting EVEN THOUGH it is well known that their short haired >partners have evolved more successful hunting skills. > >Who cares that it took millions of years of genetic evolution >to evolve ADAPTIVE gender differences! EQUALITY NOW!! > >Don't you agree? The things that bug Mark do not seem to be linked to inherent capability, but rather the roles that society imposes on its members. Mark dislikes some of the roles that she has accepted, and is now trying to un-accept (is that really a word? Oh well...). I understand that she has truly make a MES of herself -- that is her legal initials. She objects to being called female because she wants to be considered on the same ground as the men around her. And reading what she has to say about the males around her, I can't understand why she would want to be considered part of such a dismal bunch...but that is my opinion only. Be that as it may, the things Mark rails against are not being female, but having some else try to force her into behaviours and patterns she doesn't want to assume. Everyone is borne equal, but after that it is up to the individual. As for myself, I hope nobody is my equal. I'm not sure the world could take two of me... --- These ideas are mine. MINE! --- zardoz