allen@sulaco.UUCP (Allen Gwinn) (07/29/88)
In article <12729@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, era1987@violet.berkeley.edu writes: > In article <1809@iscuva.ISCS.COM> davids@iscuva.ISCS.COM (David Schmidt) writes: > > > >I agree that is IS impolite and rude not to abide by your wishes (no > >matter what a person thinks of them), but it is not "discriminating". > > If the ONLY reason for being impolite and rude to someone in a certain > way involving their religion, race, color, age, handicap, or sex, > *IS* their religion, race, color, age, handicap, or sex, then it *IS** > discriminatory. No... the phrase should read "If the ONLY reason for being impolite and rude to someone in a certain way *is because of* their religion, race...sex, then it MAY be discriminatory depending upon the circumstances involved". Otherwise, the only thing that the offender may be guilty of is rudeness or bad taste. How come the members of the Ku Klux Klan don't get sued for calling black people 'niggers'??? The people that are refusing to call you 'he' and 'him' are probably doing so because of YOU, Mark, not because they discriminate against women. The bulk of them are probably tired of listening to all your crap. Why don't you grow up, change your attitute, try being civil to everyone on the net (even the men), and see if that doesn't bring about a change in the whole situation?!?!? > If you do it from a site of which you are am employee, and I happen > to be a customer, such as, for example, AT&T, you could be reprimanded > or penalized if I file a complaint. Oh, I suppose you could call in a complaint on anyone, at any company, for any reason, customer or not... except for my company :-) You would be complaining to me :-) > One person has done that several > times, and I had hoped not to have to file a complaint, but they do > not wish to stop putting their company in a position of liability, > so I may have to file a complaint in order to get that person's > harassment to stop. Suing me for threatening to sue or file a > complaint unless the harassment against me stops, by alleging > that my threat to sue or file a commplaint after repeated harassment, > is itself a form of harassment, is akin to kicking somebody in the > face in front of witnesses, and then filing a harassment complaint if > they call the cops, because you feel that calling the cops is an > infringement on your "right" to kick them in the face. In the first place, nobody is putting anybody's company in any position of liability by picking on you. I know that this fact is hard for you to live with. If I worked for AT&T (or whoever you seem to be threatening to contact), I would probably like it if you called my supervisor to complain. After he talked with you, I am sure that I would never have anything to worry about from your future complaining :-) Another thing... nobody's going to sue you, unless you file a lawsuit (of a frivolous and harassing nature) against them. They have no more of a cause of action against you than you have against them. Nobody has a "right" to "kick someone in the face", including you, Mark. Grow up, Mark -- Allen Gwinn ...sulaco!allen allen@sulaco.UUCP Disclaimer: I speak for myself only (thanks Oleg)
stfst@cisunx.UUCP (Stephen T. Frezza) (08/01/88)
In article <179@sulaco.UUCP>, allen@sulaco.UUCP (Allen Gwinn) writes: > The people that are refusing to call you 'he' and 'him' are probably doing > so because of YOU, Mark, not because they discriminate against women. The > bulk of them are probably tired of listening to all your crap. Why don't > you grow up, change your attitute, try being civil to everyone on the net > (even the men), and see if that doesn't bring about a change in the whole > situation?!?!? WHY?!?! You ask "WHY". If "Mark" stopped posting this shit, she'd have nothing at all to post. What the hell else does she ever post? She makes "JJ" look like a saint! Let's face it. Not a damned this is going to come of this "lawsuit". She doesn't have the balls (no pun intended) to file a lawsuit of this type. If she did, show would have gone and done it, and not be crying on the net. This is all bull shit designed to stur up the net. Why everyone flamed poor JJ while we tolerate this woman I'll never know. I would appreciate it if someone could show me how to use those "KILL" files to kill any article that had "MES" or "Mark Ethan Youknowwho" ANYWHERE in it (body or header). Many thanks. > Grow up, Mark Ditto. Sorry to post this crap to the net. I mostly read and rarely post, but this time it got my goat.
jj@alice.UUCP (08/03/88)
In article <11376@cisunx.UUCP> stfst@cisunx.UUCP writes: >at all to post. What the hell else does she ever post? She makes "JJ" look >like a saint! ... >is all bull shit designed to stur up the net. Why everyone flamed poor JJ >while we tolerate this woman I'll never know. Um, folks, can we all please start referring to the "jj" who posted the begging article as jj@cup.portal.com? The number of instances of confusion are steadily growing, and lots of people just don't bother to make the distinction between the various 'jj' people on the net. Look, one fellow at SF USENIX told me "Oh, you're the OTHER jj, I was wondering how well you'd fall off this wall". I am STILL getting mail directed to the jj@cup.portal.com from people who seem to want to gloat (i.e. 'Hey, fella, drop out of school yet,since your tuition didn't get paid?" and other such rot), and the CONSTANT failure of people, even in news.*, to make the distinction, isn't helping. So, GET YOUR *(&^(*&^ JJ's STRAIGHT! -- jj@alice.att.com, who has no affiliation whatsoever with (the former) jj@cup.portal.co. Mail to either jj@alice.att.com or alice!jj HASA, A division, S affiliations. Copyright alice!jj 1988. All rights to mail reserved, USENET redistribution otherwise granted to those who allow free redistritution in a USENET-like manner.