[news.admin] Summary of Replies

Patrick_A_Townson@cup.portal.com (09/10/88)

You didn't ignore my message! Quite a large number of replies were in my
email at PORTAL this evening. Here is a summary of the most interesting
messages I received --

Bill Wisner noted, "Rumor has it that PORTAL's mailer is broken." He went
on to castigate SUN for some of the confusion regards our mail. I forwarded
his message intact to Phil Sih, our sysadmin for his review.

Matthew P. Weiner, aka Weemba@Garnet called my attention to the UUCP Mapping
Project. I had not known of their efforts previously. Thanks for bringing it
up. He also stated that the problems with mail on this end were Portal's
fault.

Brian Kantor, a Postmaster at UCSD Office of Academic Computing, aka "The
Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd" referred me to the RFC-822 specifications and
offered to teleport a complete set to me if desired. No thank you, it is
quite lengthy, and I have the most pertinent parts available to me from a
local source here in Chicago.

George Zipperlen, aka Hyper Wizard said that the mnemonics of domain
addresses were helpful. He noted it was far easier to remember these words
than to remember numbers, area codes and zip codes which he was always
forgetting. Well, that goes to show the difference in people. I find it
quite hard to remember the mnemonics unless they are extremely obvious and
directly related to the site name I am writing. On the other hand, I can
remember 10 digit phone numbers from years ago. I have I suppose a three or
four dozen complete telephone numbers from all over the United States stored
away in my memory. You name an area code I can tell you almost always exactly
where it is, etc....

Amos Shapir, writing from Israel said, "You are obviously new here. Not many
people write 200 line messages and even fewer read them...."  Actually I
have been 'around here' for about a year, and the message, at least by the
line count at PORTAL was 122 lines. Anyway, there are plenty of people who
write 200 line messages: just scan through talk.politics.misc and talk.
religion.misc. Talk about Sunday sermons!  And those guys use 198 lines of
quotes from prior messages and 2 lines of original reply. At least all 122
lines were my own thoughts, thank you!

Amos also pointed out that a central data base was located at Rutgers.edu and
a similar data base for Arpa and Internet was located at SRI-NIC.

Steve Bellovin@att.research hastened to tell me "not everyone thinks that all
the users at PORTAL are isomorphic.." and he reminisced about early days on
the net and how 'projections called for 1 or 2 messages daily from perhaps
a hundred sites at most..."  And may I venture to add I think by 1990 you all
will be remembering the 'good old days' of 1987-88; but that's to be
expected with the rapid growth of modems at home and public access systems.

Finally Jordan Brown noted in his opinion that names were really superior to
numbers. He pointed out that conversion to a number address, even if it were
desirable, would be a nightmare to implement given so many varieties of
machinery and software. He doubted such a conversion would ever be successful.
Jordan also suggested I review the RFC-822 stuff.

My thanks to all for your replies. Contrary to Amos Shapir's comments that
'not many will read 200 line messages', the fact is my email box at PORTAL was
full to the brim Friday evening, and I suspect there will be more over the
weekend. An additional summary will follow if the mail received in the next
few days differs substantially in content from that already received.

Patrick Townson@cup.portal.com