[news.admin] rec.arts.anime & non-Japanimation

yelorose@juniper.uucp (Bob Mosley III) (10/05/88)

In article <9671@cup.portal.com> tony_fastlane_lane@cup.portal.com writes:

[for those readers not up to date on this latest bit of flaming from Portal,
here's a brief recap: A few posts back, a Portal-Person identifying himself
as "Tony_Fastlane_lane" posted a rather snotty and childish message regarding
the debate over Rec.Arts.Cartoons. The post was responded to by one of the net's
more respected members, R.A. Jung. Robert's response was apropos and nowhere
near as out of line as the following second-generation flame-response:]


>Airhead, Mr. Jung?
>Visit the real world, you say?
>    Thank you for winning a bet for me. It took longer than I expected for
>one of the tiny minds of usenet to start hurling insults because I DARED to
>queestion the scared cow of the week. I bet a friend $100 bucks about the kind
>of answer would come back from my posting. You, Mr. Jung won it for me.
>    You see, my friend could not believe what I told him about the cowardly
>practice of `flaming' that goes on here. It is so safe to sit in your office or
>dorm and throw insults at those who do not agree with you. If you had ever
>wandered out into this `real world' you mention you would know this. I see
>you have not. Try it sometime. You might be surprised how people react when you
>call them names for not agreeing with you.
>   As you can now see I ALSO like to discuss trivial things, Mr. Jung. Like the
>focus of this posting.


...now, please correct me if 'm wrong on two assumptions:

1) Portal now has a "if you flame on the net, you lose your access" policy
2) The above response was indeed a flame.

...it seems to me that the Portal admin either has been negligent in it's 
enforcement of policy once again, or this "Mr. Lane" has simply chosen to ignore
any warnings/threats/promises of access loss to "win his bet".

...personally, I've chosen to believe both. Despite the claims of the Portal
admin, as well as keeping the promise to force the posting of *REAL* names
in the header, I still have found very little proof to substantiate any
validity to their word. As for the other aspect, simply look at the tone of 
"Mr. Lane's" reply and you'll see what I mean.

Tsk. It's such a shame, you know. After they punted Wasser@Portal off for 
being an ass, I was actually ready to give Portal as a whole a second chance.


But now....tsk.


								OM


...seriously, how many people are really gullible enough to wager 100 bucks on
such a stupid bet? Not many, although I'd love to alk with those who would,
as I am always in need of cash :-).

davidbe@sco.COM (The Cat in the Hat) (10/06/88)

yelorose@juniper.UUCP (Bob Mosley III) said:
-
		[flame deleted]

-...now, please correct me if 'm wrong on two assumptions:
-
-1) Portal now has a "if you flame on the net, you lose your access" policy
-2) The above response was indeed a flame.
-
-...it seems to me that the Portal admin either has been negligent in it's 
-enforcement of policy once again, or this "Mr. Lane" has simply chosen to ignore
-any warnings/threats/promises of access loss to "win his bet".
-

Actually, did you mail CS@portal (their equivilant of root, I guess)?
I don't recall the Portal admins saying they would keep us [the rest of
the world] advised of disciplinary actions taken, nor do I recall anyone 
asking them to.  

And, there's no way other than mail, to let the Portal admins know that there
is a problem.  So...why not mail cs@portal.cup.com, and let them know what
you think.  Unlike some of us, they may actually want your opinion.
(Oops.  Did I say that?  Sorry...:-) )

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