roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) (10/18/88)
Somebody is munging articles pretty badly. The following show up at phri this morning. Notice the general scrambling in the main text, as well as the extra set of headers pasted on the end. Even things like the "Organization: " header getting turning into "xrganizaiton". Almost looks like uncorrected modem noise. My guess is somebodies unbatch script went crazy. ================start of included article================ Path: phri!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!uwmcsd1!marque!uunet!munnari!mimir! From: patterso@hardees.rutgers.edu (Ross Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: simultaneous connections Message-ID: <Oct.14i18.57.33.1988.16120@hardees.rutgers.edu> Date: 16 Oct 88 23:50:26 GMT Lines: 13 xrganization: Rutgers Univ., CCIS >I do not know whether any 20@aributed systems in the Internet take >advantag? TK TCP design feature but at the time of its design, >TCP held symmetry to be a highly valuable characteristicnet!hiVint Cerf Doesn't the FTP "Three Party Model" depend on symetric, peer-peer connections? There are several FTP's out there that support Three Party, not to mention Braden & DeSchon's work on BFTP. Ross Patterson Center for Computer and Information Services Rutgers University #! rnews 733 Path: munnari!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!rutgers!n are4n!princeton!udel!mmdf From: 97331812% ================end of included article================ -- Roy Smith, System Administrator Public Health Research Institute {allegra,philabs,cmcl2,rutgers}!phri!roy -or- phri!roy@uunet.uu.net "The connector is the network"
karl@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) (10/18/88)
Yup, I find that it was already abused by the time it reached tut.cis.ohio-state.edu. That leaves a system in the partial Path: !mailrus!uwmcsd1!marque!uunet!munnari!mimir! as the guilty party. The fact that the Path: ends bogusly is more than a little suspicious. --Karl
emv@a.cc.umich.edu (Ed Vielmetti) (10/19/88)
In article <24946@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> karl@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) writes: >Yup, I find that it was already abused by the time it reached >tut.cis.ohio-state.edu. That leaves a system in the partial Path: >!mailrus!uwmcsd1!marque!uunet!munnari!mimir! as the guilty party. The It's munched by the time it hits mailrus. Why would an article from rutgers propogate by way of uunet and munnari? Doesn't make sense to me.
tgt@cbnews.ATT.COM (Tim Thompson) (10/19/88)
In article <24946@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> karl@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) writes: >Yup, I find that it was already abused by the time it reached >tut.cis.ohio-state.edu. That leaves a system in the partial Path: >!mailrus!uwmcsd1!marque!uunet!munnari!mimir! as the guilty party. The >fact that the Path: ends bogusly is more than a little suspicious. > >--Karl I found the following in the history file on 'att', as well as seeing it on the netnews server here in Columbus: <Oct.14.18.57.33.1988.16120@hardees.rutgers.edu> 10/15/88 01:27 comp.protocols.tcp-ip/607 <Oct.14i18.57.33.1988.16120@hardees.rutgers.edu> 10/18/88 01:26 comp.protocols.tcp-ip/618 Evidently, something somewhere munged the Message-Id. Looking at the actual article headers yielded this: (formatting done for readability) Path: att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!elbereth.rutgers.edu! hardees.rutgers.edu!patterso From: patterso@hardees.rutgers.edu (Ross Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: simultaneous connections Message-ID: <Oct.14.18.57.33.1988.16120@hardees.rutgers.edu> Date: 14 Oct 88 22:57:34 GMT References: <6467@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., CCIS Lines: 13 So the one from rutgers got here from rutgers via OSU. Nothing wrong along this route. Path: att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!uwmcsd1!marque!uunet! munnari!mimir! From: patterso@hardees.rutgers.edu (Ross Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: simultaneous connections Message-ID: <Oct.14i18.57.33.1988.16120@hardees.rutgers.edu> Date: 16 Oct 88 23:50:26 GMT Lines: 13 xrganization: Rutgers Univ., CCIS This, on the other hand, has been seriously munged. I've seen the posting from the person who stated that is was munged by the time it reached mailrus. Anywhere beyond mailrus is suspect - of course, with the truncated Path: header, it might not be any of them at all. Tim
msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith) (10/19/88)
Actually, I suspect that mimir's neighbor munged it, by changing the
ID, and killing the Path line to just 'Path: '. Then, mimir did it's
thing by adding: 'mimir!' to the existing, null path. Then, it came
all of the way back from australia.
Mark
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msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu Dukakis/Bentsen on Nov. 8th!!!jbrown@herron.uucp (Jordan Brown) (10/20/88)
> Path: phri!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu !mailrus!uwmcsd1!marque!uunet!munnari!mimir! ... > #! rnews 733 > Path: munnari!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!rutgers!n > are4n!princeton!udel!mmdf Looks to me like it got munched coming out of "munnari". That was the last system that saw the second Path: line as a header line and added itself. I'm mildly confused by the first Path: line, as it shows munnari handing the message to uunet, but the second one shows it going the other direction. Looks like a message was munched (bytes lost) and the munching wasn't detected... the byte count in the batch would be off, and once that happens you're in deep yogurt.
jonathan@cs.keele.ac.uk (Jonathan Knight) (10/25/88)
Here's another munged article header. The Path: ends somewhat oddly.
Perhaps this helps trace the Path chopper.
Path: kl-cs!ukc!mcvax!uunet!
From: prindle@NADC.ARPA (Frank Prindle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: C Power (Power C) options (flags)
Message-ID: <POSTNEWS14280@NADC.ARPA>
Date: 21 Oct 88 18:12:18 GMT
Sender: prindle@nadc.arpa (Frank Prindle)
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