erict@flatline.UUCP (j eric townsend) (02/13/89)
I accidentally newgrouped news.announce.newusers and news.announce.important as unmoderated with a distribution greater than local. I have done a global newgroup of the groups as moderated, just in case my newgroup got past Houston. Lesson: Never, ever, make a quick-n-dirty /usr/lib/news/sys file like this: mysite:all:: anothersite:all:L: etc... You probably know that already, but in case you didn't... :-) -- J. Eric Townsend | Skate UNIX uunet!nuchat!flatline!erict -or- | ..!bellcore!texbell!/ 511 Parker #2 |EastEnders Mailing List: BITNET: cosc5fa@uhnix1.EDU Houston,Tx,77007 |eastender@flatline.UUCP
jbayer@ispi.UUCP (Jonathan Bayer) (02/14/89)
In article <304@flatline.UUCP> erict@flatline.UUCP (j eric townsend) writes: >I accidentally newgrouped news.announce.newusers and news.announce.important >as unmoderated with a distribution greater than local. I have done a global >newgroup of the groups as moderated, just in case my newgroup got past >Houston. It got here. JB -- Jonathan Bayer Beware: The light at the end of the Intelligent Software Products, Inc. tunnel may be an oncoming dragon 19 Virginia Ave. ...uunet!ispi!jbayer Rockville Centre, NY 11570 (516) 766-2867 jbayer@ispi.UUCP
news@wa4mei.UUCP (USENET admin) (02/15/89)
In article <304@flatline.UUCP> erict@flatline.UUCP (j eric townsend) writes: > >I accidentally newgrouped news.announce.newusers and news.announce.important >as unmoderated with a distribution greater than local. I have done a global >newgroup of the groups as moderated, just in case my newgroup got past >Houston. > >Lesson: > >Never, ever, make a quick-n-dirty /usr/lib/news/sys file like this: >mysite:all:: >anothersite:all:L: > >etc... > >You probably know that already, but in case you didn't... :-) >-- >J. Eric Townsend | Skate UNIX >uunet!nuchat!flatline!erict -or- | >..!bellcore!texbell!/ 511 Parker #2 |EastEnders Mailing List: >BITNET: cosc5fa@uhnix1.EDU Houston,Tx,77007 |eastender@flatline.UUCP Apparently there are a lot of systems that don't know better than to use 'all' for the newsgroup and distribution lists in their sys files. About a year ago (being a novice news admin) I just had to try using the sendsys command(request) and being a novice didn't get the distribution set. The result was that for the next couple of months my system overflowed due to the large quantity of mail that came back from systems all over the world. There was also many flames for having commited this sin but not one note that really explained what I had done wrong. Well, wanting to try to learn something about the way other news administrators setup their sys files I actually read everyone of them that came in (~7MB). I was able to find someone locally (Atlanta) who would take the time to sit down with me and explain some of the different things that I found in these sys files. We seperated them into groups and the main ones that we studied were the very good ones and the very bad. All in all (sorry about the choice of words) the best were from some of the larger schools and the largest percentage of the bad ones came from the various AT&T systems (mostly in the NE). I have also been keeping a listing of all the groups that have been coming through that probably shouldn't. I'll include it below and maybe some of the news admins might recongnize themselves here. I would be interested in having someone explain to me why all of these groups should be ariving in Atlanta, Ga. 3b.misc brl.support eunet.esprit 3b.tech btl.general eunet.followup ads.general btl.misc eunet.general ak.general bu.general eunet.jokes alliant.forsale bu.unix.questions eunet.micro.acorn apollo.junk buf.general eunet.news.group apollo.politics ca.driving eunet.politics apollo.rec.ski ca.environment eunet.sources apple.aux ca.general eunet.works apple.general ca.news fa.info-pascal ar.info-vax ca.news.group fa.info-postscript arpa.common-lisp ca.politics fa.sun-spots arpa.info-3b2 ca.test fa.unix-wizards arpa.info-vax ca.unix fido.226 arpa.nets ca.wanted fido.ham-radio arpa.supercomputer can.ai fido.packet arpa.t-discussion can.general fj.editor.emacs athena.forsale can.jobs fj.wanted aus.ai can.politics fj.windows.x aus.computers can.uucp fluke.general aus.computers.ibm-pc cat.announce fluke.micro aus.followup cat.general fnet.culture aus.forsale cat.questions fnet.general 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pell@isy.liu.se (P{r Emanuelsson) (02/27/89)
In article <2004@wa4mei.UUCP> news@wa4mei.UUCP (USENET admin) writes: >Apparently there are a lot of systems that don't know better than to >use 'all' for the newsgroup and distribution lists in their sys files. Sorry, but it will only get worse. The problem is that B news confuses newsgroup names and distributions in the sys file. I run C news and I have to have "all" in my sys file, or a lot of articles will be junked! This is because people put all kinds of strange distributions, like "rec" or "gnu", in their articles. And B news allows them to. C news, however (and News 3.0 too, I think) wants the distribution to be a geographical area or something. I cannot quite see the reason behind putting a distribution of "gnu" on a posting in gnu.gcc. The "gnu" distribution is inherent in the group name. Fortunately, C news allows me to configure the system so that no articles with incorrect distributions will be transmitted FROM this site. But I will have to keep the "all" in my sys file until more people have converted to C news... /Pell -- "Don't think; let the machine do it for you!" -- E. C. Berkeley Dept. of Electrical Engineering ====>>> pell@isy.liu.se University of Linkoping, Sweden ...!uunet!enea!isy.liu.se!pell