[news.admin] isis!security

dan@hrc.UUCP (Dan Troxel) (03/31/89)

What is going on with isis!security mailing list? I have sent several times
for an application, and not a whimper. I have talked to a couple of netters
who are on the list, and they haven't received anything for quite some time.
-- 
Dan Troxel @ Handwriting Research Corporation                  WK 1-602-957-8870
Camelback Corporate Center  2821 E. Camelback Road  Suite 600  Phoenix, AZ 85016
ncar!noao!asuvax!hrc!dan                                  hrc!dan@asuvax.asu.edu

gore@eecs.nwu.edu (Jacob Gore) (04/03/89)

The isis!security list is a waste of time.  All that shows up in it are
articles that have appeared elsewhere TWO MONTHS EARLIER!

Jacob Gore				Gore@EECS.NWU.Edu
Northwestern Univ., EECS Dept.		{oddjob,chinet,att}!nucsrl!gore

wwtz@cgch.UUCP (Wolfgang Wetz) (04/10/89)

In article <198745@hrc.UUCP> dan@hrc.UUCP (Dan Troxel) writes:
>
>What is going on with isis!security mailing list? I have sent several times
>for an application, and not a whimper. I have talked to a couple of netters
>who are on the list, and they haven't received anything for quite some time.
>-- 
>Dan Troxel @ Handwriting Research Corporation                  WK 1-602-957-8870
>Camelback Corporate Center  2821 E. Camelback Road  Suite 600  Phoenix, AZ 85016
>ncar!noao!asuvax!hrc!dan                                  hrc!dan@asuvax.asu.edu

Well, I am on that list, too. Unfortunately Mr. Burt, the moderator of this
list, did show up when Neil (the other security list moderator) brought up
the point of taking over this list. Mr. Burt then promised to reactivate
the former security list. But now we are in the same position again - we do
receive just nothing from this list.

Also on special wishes from Mr. Burt there are lot's of redistribution
points around - waiting for something to redistribute.

I would suggest, that we do something about it, now!

Wolfgang Wetz, Systems Administrator, Scientific Computing Centre
   c/o CIBA-GEIGY AG, R-1045.330, CH-4002 Basel, Switzerland
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netnews@pikes.Colorado.EDU (Robert M. Sklar) (04/11/89)

In article <807@cgch.UUCP> wwtz@cgchx.UUCP (Wolfgang Wetz) writes:
>In article <198745@hrc.UUCP> dan@hrc.UUCP (Dan Troxel) writes:
>>
>>What is going on with isis!security mailing list? I have sent several times
>>for an application, and not a whimper. I have talked to a couple of netters
>>who are on the list, and they haven't received anything for quite some time.
>
	Likewise, we have heard nothing from the "security list", perhaps
it's sooo secret, Mr. Burt does not want to release anything to the netters
on the list?

>Well, I am on that list, too. Unfortunately Mr. Burt, the moderator of this
>list, did show up when Neil (the other security list moderator) brought up
>the point of taking over this list. Mr. Burt then promised to reactivate
>the former security list. But now we are in the same position again - we do
>receive just nothing from this list.
>
	We too made an offer to take over the list from Mr. Burt, but no
response was recieved from Mr. Burt about this.

>I would suggest, that we do something about it, now!

	I Agree, I think an official notice should be posted on news.groups
and news.admin that the list be taken over by another moderator and that if 
there is no official reply to the notice by Mr. Burt that general announcements
of the change be made to everyone.

	That's my .02 cents worth.
>
>Wolfgang Wetz, Systems Administrator, Scientific Computing Centre

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aburt@isis.UUCP (Andrew Burt) (04/13/89)

The list is alive and well; an issue just went out yesterday, and a few
weeks ago before that.

I've been busy to the point where I haven't taken care of all the
messages in the security-request box, but there aren't that many left
in there.  If you've sent a request to the automated "I want to join"
address,
		isis!sec-request-application
and you haven't heard anything, send again.
-- 

Andrew Burt 				   			ncar!isis!aburt

	      "Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time."

neil@zardoz.UUCP (Neil Gorsuch) (04/14/89)

In article <807@cgch.UUCP> wwtz@cgchx.UUCP (Wolfgang Wetz) writes:
>In article <198745@hrc.UUCP> dan@hrc.UUCP (Dan Troxel) writes:
>>What is going on with isis!security mailing list? I have sent several times
>>for an application, and not a whimper. I have talked to a couple of netters
>>who are on the list, and they haven't received anything for quite some time.
>Well, I am on that list, too. Unfortunately Mr. Burt, the moderator of this
>list, did show up when Neil (the other security list moderator) brought up
>the point of taking over this list. Mr. Burt then promised to reactivate
>the former security list. But now we are in the same position again - we do
>receive just nothing from this list.

Hi, this is Neil (the other security list moderator).  The zardoz security
list is alive and well, has over 350 members, and welcomes new qualified
members.  The list is hosted on cpd.com (zardoz.uucp), which will be directly
connected into the internet within a month (that's the schedule, anyway).
Digests have been sent out fairly regularly.  This list's membership is
based on the premise that system administrators or persons recomended
by their system's administrators can join.  So please, if you want in,
or have tried to get in in the past, try again.  There have been a number
of mail problems in Orange County in the past few months, and your mail
might have simply been lost.  I use uunet for almost all mail now, so
there shouldn't be any more lost mail.

>Also on special wishes from Mr. Burt there are lot's of redistribution
>points around - waiting for something to redistribute.

Due to the excellent connections zardoz has, some quirks of mailers that I
take advantage of, and the resources available here, there is no need of
redistribution points.  If you are a redistribution point waiting for
digests, send me the names of the intended destinations and I will add
any that are immediately verifiable for membership to this list.

>I would suggest, that we do something about it, now!

Subscribe to the working list (mine :<).  There have been problems at various
points in the past with mail to/from Europe, so if you tried to get on
to the zardoz list, please try again.  Also, my mailer doesn't seem to do very
well with %'s in addresses.  The best bet is to send mail via uucp to
uunet!zardoz!security-request or to send it to security-request@cpd.com
if you are on the internet.  If you are from a uucp maps listed site,
please send me mail from one of the following:
1.	root
2.	the email contact name
3.	the map entry writer's email name
If you are sending mail from an internet site, please send it from an NIC
registered site from one of the following:
1.	root
2.	the NIC listed contact
Or, if you are not one of the above, send me mail anyway, and we can probably
work something out.

Neil Gorsuch	a.k.a. security-request
security-request@cpd.com
uunet!zardoz!security-request
USA (714) 546-1100

kdoshi@crunch.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Kunjal Doshi) (04/15/89)

In article <2490@isis.UUCP> aburt@isis.UUCP (Andrew Burt) writes:
>The list is alive and well; an issue just went out yesterday, and a few
>weeks ago before that.
>I've been busy to the point where I haven't taken care of all the
>messages in the security-request box, but there aren't that many left
>in there.  If you've sent a request to the automated "I want to join"
>address,
>		isis!sec-request-application
>and you haven't heard anything, send again.
>
>Andrew Burt 	ncar!isis!aburt


Is there any other way to reach you besides via UUCP. Some of us
are strictly Internet and have no way of reaching UUCP sites
except via some Internet site.

I tried according to someones suggestion the following address but 
it did NOT work:
	sec-request-application%isis@uunet.uu.net

-Kunjal Doshi
 kdoshi@robotics.jpl.nasa.gov

woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) (04/17/89)

In article <258@forsight.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> kdoshi@crunch.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Kunjal Doshi) writes:
>I tried according to someones suggestion the following address but 
>it did NOT work:
>	sec-request-application%isis@uunet.uu.net
>

  Try 

sec-request-application%isis.uucp@ncar.ucar.edu

instead. isis does not talk directly to uunet, but they do talk to us.
Please note that the .uucp in the above address is required.

--Greg (postmaster@ncar.ucar.edu)

len@netsys.COM (Len Rose) (04/18/89)

In article <3013@ncar.ucar.edu> woods@handies.UCAR.EDU (Greg Woods) writes:
>In article <258@forsight.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> kdoshi@crunch.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Kunjal Doshi) writes:
>>I tried according to someones suggestion the following address but 
>>it did NOT work:
>>	sec-request-application%isis@uunet.uu.net
>>
>  Try 
>sec-request-application%isis.uucp@ncar.ucar.edu
>instead. isis does not talk directly to uunet, but they do talk to us.
>Please note that the .uucp in the above address is required.
>--Greg (postmaster@ncar.ucar.edu)


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 Too bad this doesn't work either..


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len@netsys.com
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