[news.admin] Problems posting to comp.sources.mac

nagel@beaver.ics.uci.edu (Mark Nagel) (04/28/89)

In article <2765@carthage.cs.swarthmore.edu>, jackiw@cs (Nick Jackiw) writes:
|In article <1316@tellab5.tellabs.CHI.IL.US> kenk@tellab5.UUCP (Ken Konecki) writes:
|> Hello everybody,
|> I've tried posting some stuff (twice) to comp.sources.mac and so far it
|> hasn't appeared (and I've waited 4 weeks). 
|> Any idea on why it hasn't shown up? Is there any
|> criteria for postings I'm not aware of?
|
|Posters to either of the moderated mac groups (binaries and sources) 
|should be aware that there is a lengthy backlog (measurable in months)...
|the moderator either finds himself somewhat (and understandably)
|overwhelmed, or he enforces  (for reasons unknown) a delay policy. Only
|important Virus information,  Apple technical information, and patches
|to major commercial software packages make it through with any rapidity.

I think the problem may be more than that.  I recently handled failed
mail to macintosh@felix.uucp through ucivax.  As is obvious from c.b.m
posts, the actual address is macintosh@dhw68k.uucp ==
macintosh@dhw68k.cts.com.  Apparently, when Roger left FileNet, they
kept an alias for forwarding mail to dhw68k.  The failed mail I
handled, however, had an error header saying that macintosh was an
unknown address at felix.  The real problem here is that the moderator
tables on backbone sites probably need to be updated to point to
macintosh@dhw68k.cts.com.  I have notified Roger of this problem and
asked him to take steps to correct it.

In the meantime, a workaround for this is to mail directly to the
correct address rather than posting to c.s.m or c.b.m.

Mark Nagel @ UC Irvine, Department of Information and Computer Science
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ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (04/28/89)

Why are postings to comp.sources.mac moderated at all?  At our site the last
message to c.s.m is #9, and this hasn't changed in months.  I think people
should be encouraged to post to c.s.m., and I can't see that the load is such
that it needs to be moderated.  Are there other reasons?

Robert
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kent@ssbell.UUCP (Kent Landfield) (05/02/89)

In article <2969@tank.uchicago.edu> ra_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>Why are postings to comp.sources.mac moderated at all?  At our site the last
>message to c.s.m is #9, and this hasn't changed in months.  I think people
>should be encouraged to post to c.s.m., and I can't see that the load is such
>that it needs to be moderated.  Are there other reasons?
>
I don't have an answer to your question but I have sent mail to the 
moderator at least 5 times in the last 3 months.  No bounces, no answer.
Is there anyone home ? :-(

		-Kent+

bytebug@dhw68k.cts.com (Roger L. Long) (05/02/89)

In article <1316@tellab5.tellabs.CHI.IL.US> Ken Konecki writes:
> Hello everybody,
> I've tried posting some stuff (twice) to comp.sources.mac and so far it
> hasn't appeared (and I've waited 4 weeks). 
> Any idea on why it hasn't shown up? Is there any
> criteria for postings I'm not aware of?

No special criteria.  It's just that sources get jumbled in with all of
the binaries in the queue, and even things identified as source usually
end up being StuffIt archives which are posted to comp.binaries.mac,
regardless of WHAT they contain.  The comp.sources.mac newsgroup is
for human readable source, and many people find that StuffIt archives
containing binary resource files and binary Makefiles are more useful.

In article <2765@carthage.cs.swarthmore.edu> Nick Jackiw writes:
|
|Posters to either of the moderated mac groups (binaries and sources) 
|should be aware that there is a lengthy backlog (measurable in months)...
|the moderator either finds himself somewhat (and understandably)
|overwhelmed, or he enforces  (for reasons unknown) a delay policy. Only
|important Virus information,  Apple technical information, and patches
|to major commercial software packages make it through with any rapidity.

There is a lengthy backlog due to the volume of information that passes
through comp.binaries.mac.  Time sensitive information does make it out
quite quickly, and hopefully what I've considered time sensitive is 
considered useful by those who monitor comp.binaries.mac.

In article <12822@paris.ics.uci.edu> Mark Nagel writes:
>I think the problem may be more than that.  I recently handled failed
>mail to macintosh@felix.uucp through ucivax.  As is obvious from c.b.m
>posts, the actual address is macintosh@dhw68k.uucp ==
>macintosh@dhw68k.cts.com.  Apparently, when Roger left FileNet, they
>kept an alias for forwarding mail to dhw68k.  The failed mail I
>handled, however, had an error header saying that macintosh was an
>unknown address at felix.  The real problem here is that the moderator
>tables on backbone sites probably need to be updated to point to
>macintosh@dhw68k.cts.com.  I have notified Roger of this problem and
>asked him to take steps to correct it.


Please leave the submission addresses for comp.binaries.mac and
comp.sources.mac as

	macintosh@felix.UUCP

Mail should be sent to dhw68k ONLY as a last resort.  Any mail that
bounces from felix is probably a fluke, or due to felix being a 
poor, overworked Vax 11/750 running ancient software.  I continue
to receive submissions sent to via felix.UUCP and would appreciate 
it if that would continue until such time as I announce a new 
submission address.

>In the meantime, a workaround for this is to mail directly to the
>correct address rather than posting to c.s.m or c.b.m.

Mail postings to macintosh@felix.UUCP or post to comp.binaries.mac.

-- 
	Roger L. Long
	dhw68k!bytebug

lipa@polya.Stanford.EDU (William J. Lipa) (05/04/89)

I'm not sure what the deal with comp.sources.mac is, but in the meantime,
I'd love to get whatever source code you were going to post for Info-Mac.
Just send it off to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu with a note about what it's
supposed to do.

Putting stuff on Info-Mac is an effective way to get widespread distribution
of your files.

Bill Lipa
Info-Mac

david@dhw68k.cts.com (David H. Wolfskill) (05/04/89)

In article <471@ssbell.UUCP> kent@ssbell.UUCP (Systems Administrator) writes:
>....
>I don't have an answer to your question but I have sent mail to the 
>moderator at least 5 times in the last 3 months.  No bounces, no answer.
>Is there anyone home ? :-(

I am the S/A & owner of the machine where Roger currently has the
account that he uses to moderate the comp.{binaries,sources}.mac
newsgroups.

At the moment (as I write this), he is logged in, preparing "at" jobs
to submit things to the newsgroups while he is on vacation for a few
days; however, I can assure you that someone is, indeed, "home" most of
the time.

If you have trouble reaching Roger, you may try sending inquiries as to
the nature of the problem to me; if mail to this site seems to be
ineffective, you may try calling my work telephone at (714) 385-4055.

However, if the problem is an issue of Roger's policies and procedures
in moderating the newsgroups, there is no point in sending such
inquiries my way -- that is properly Roger's concern.

Please do not attempt to send submissions to either of those newsgroups
to me:  I neither own nor use a Mac.

david
-- 
David H. Wolfskill
uucp: ...{spsd,zardoz,felix}!dhw68k!david	InterNet: david@dhw68k.cts.com