[news.admin] force-feeding

jnford@jay.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jay Ford) (07/15/89)

I am an unwilling recipient of the "junk" group.  I am running B news 2.11.17
and nntp 1.5.5, with a single nntp feed from uunet.  I have "!junk" on the "ME"
line of my sys file, but the junk articles keep coming in.  Could someone
enlighten me on how to avoid being force-fed.

This brings up a broader issue about group names without "."s in them.  There
seem to be exceptions to the usual handling rules for single-component groups
relative to multi-component groups.  The above problem is an example, and I
think I've seen others.  Is this true, or am I just dazed and confused?


Jay Ford,  Weeg Computing Center,  University of Iowa,  Iowa City,  IA  52242
jnford@jay.weeg.uiowa.edu  or  jnfordpb@uiamvs.bitnet,  319-335-5555

tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) (07/15/89)

In <56@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> jnford@jay.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jay Ford) writes:
JF> I am an unwilling recipient of the "junk" group.  I am running B
JF> news 2.11.17 and nntp 1.5.5, with a single nntp feed from uunet.
JF> I have "!junk" on the "ME" line of my sys file, but the junk
JF> articles keep coming in.  Could someone enlighten me on how to
JF> avoid being force-fed.

If you don't want articles in junk, run a cron job to take care of it.
The articles which appear in junk are due to groups which are being
passed to you under valid distributions but for which you don't have
an active file entry.  For example if I have soc.singles.nice
rmgrouped (as it should be) and I am getting a soc feed from a site
which is accepting and transmitting soc.singles.nice, then any
articles for that group which pass through my feed site will end up in
junk on my own machine.   In this regard junk is very handy in
spotting problems from day to day as far as a missed {new,rm}group or
a change in a sys file entry.

Dave
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kdg@nirvo.UUCP (Kurt Gollhardt) (07/15/89)

In article <56@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> jnford@jay.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jay Ford) writes:
>I have "!junk" on the "ME" line of my sys file, but the junk articles keep
>coming in.

The "junk" group is not sent across the network (as such).  It is a special
group generated locally by the news system.  Any article which inews has
trouble dealing with, it posts to the local group "junk", regardless of the
group(s) originally posted to.

Examples of situations which cause this are: the posted newsgroup doesn't
exist in your /usr/lib/news/active file; the posted newsgroup is not
mentioned in your /usr/lib/news/sys file (in the line for your system).

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