[news.admin] Tired of bogus flame festival

neitzel@tubsibr.uucp (Martin Neitzel) (09/13/89)

Could both sides calm down somewhat?  And stop making personal
insults?  Good.  Thank you.

Articles on Usenet are written by humans.  It takes two things to
make the reading of these articles worthwhile:

* Articles,  well written and with some real contents.
* The technical medium, software, and standards to transfer the
  articles to the audience and enable it to read some of the stuff.

An author must be ``sensible'' when (s)he writes the article.  Failing
that, no techniques will ever transform a bogus submission into a
pleasing contribution.

There are some established conventions for the composition of an
article, and there are often mechanical tools that ease adherence to
these conventions.

Example: By tradition and convention, cited material is usually marked
with a ">" prefix at the left margin.  A fine thing.  Tools exist to
automate this simple task.  Fine.

The point is, one should still be sensible when one applies these
tools.  I guess we all have seen enough messages were mutually
citations were nested up to six levels and marked from ">>>" to
">>>>>".  Those articles are certainly conforming to all standards and
RFCs, but nevertheless I don't like to read them.  Their authors don't
seem to care about readable form.

There are people out there who care.  Take a look at Mark D. Baushke's
article.  The one with named citations (marked with "rsk>" and
"peter>").  He developed a new convention and perhaps the tools for
it.  He cares about his articles and his readers.

Back to the RFC and "Re^n:".  Maybe Kim Storm had a new idea when came
up with the "Re^n" header.  It was "too new" to coexist with current
practice and eventually he took it back.  But he definitely cared
about something.

The utmost annoying thing in the recent flame festival was that
someone was flamed because he cared about good news software.  You may
not agree with his Re^n-technique (I didn't), but many people seem
totally to ignore that he had good intentions.  The phrasing "bogus
subject line" clearly too derogative against Kim F. Storm in my view.

It drives me crazy when people get attacked only because they care
about Usenet software and conventions and think of alternatives (Brad
Templeton comes to mind, of course).

Please keep the automated article bouncer from the posting that
started this awful series of articles.  But modify it so that it jumps
at authors of articles with ">>>>>" quotes or lines longer than 80
chars.  The ones that spread misinformation.  The ones which can't
recognize sarcasm without lots of smileys.  The ones with a "Re: "
subject line that is conforming, but doesn't match the contents of the
article anymore.

Shoot if you really must, but shoot the Bad Guys first.

							Martin