[news.admin] Need something more than Subject/Reference

woolstar@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (John D Woolverton) (09/16/89)

I like to follow news "threds" by subject line, and have
even been thinking of adding "sort news by subject" to
my favorate news reader.  However, having 20 articles
in a row, all with the same subject, and nothing but
author names to distiquish them seemed a bit sad.

Also, when I reply to an article, there is a certain
amount of wondering whether to change the subject or
leave it as Re: ...

So what was kicked around here was changing things a bit.

	Subject:  Tired of bogus subject lines
would still be the same, and we would add
	Title: Proposing a solution to bogus subject lines.

Subjects would be created by the first poster, and
follups would leave the subject the same, but each
article would have it's own Title.  The news program
would not create  "Title: Re ..."  That way when I sorted
all my news, I could have the Subject: header, and then
all the titles underneath.

It kind of matches up with my definition of subject and title.
Similar to how things are in a library.  You can sometimes find 
lots of books on a certain subject, but they will all have 
different titles, that give a clue to their slant on the
subject.  Also you would be able to tell the questions from 
the answers easier.

This still requires people to fill out Title: and/or modify
the Subject:, and there would be plenty of problems.
(Like people using old news programs that don't do titles,
 and continually seeing, article: ####, title: (none) )
I think it would help though.

	John d Woolverton,  Video Bits
	  woolstar@csvax.caltech.edu

karl@socrates.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) (09/16/89)

woolstar@cit-vax.caltech.edu writes:
   So what was kicked around here was changing things a bit.
	   Subject:  Tired of bogus subject lines
   would still be the same, and we would add
	   Title: Proposing a solution to bogus subject lines.

Two things...

[a] Forward, into the past: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far
away, the Usenet used "Title:" rather than "Subject:".  Read your
installation guide for information regarding A News compatibility, and
read RFC1036 for an example of "the old format."

[b] Your proposed use of "Title:" rather closely matches the intended
use of the already-defined "Summary:" header.  Again, see RFC1036.

--Karl