[news.admin] Invalid expiration dates in Usenet postings

roskos@IDA.ORG (Eric Roskos) (02/12/90)

Currently there is an increasing tendency for people to put invalid
expiration dates in their postings.  This morning there were 29 invalid
expiration dates, containing words such as "never", "when?", "Someday",
"Best before Feb 1", etc. 

Since this field in the header serves a useful purpose, it seems as if
future versions of the news software might better handle invalid information
in this field.  Some of the invalid fields are genuine errors, such as
putting "2/15/90" for the date.  The invalid dates show up in the error logs
for "C" news, where one must weed through them to find the real errors,
wasting already-limited news administrator time.  If invalid fields were
detected at posting time, as is the case for some of the other fields,
people could correct the errors before they get out onto the network.

Just a suggestion.
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henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (02/13/90)

In article <1990Feb12.142313.29430@IDA.ORG> roskos@IDA.ORG (Eric Roskos) writes:
>... The invalid dates show up in the error logs
>for "C" news, where one must weed through them to find the real errors,
>wasting already-limited news administrator time...

If you're running a modern version of C News, expire tells you about these
only if you ask it to (with -g).  It ignores them in any case, so filtering
out the messages is harmless.
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mholtz@sactoh0.UUCP (Mark A. Holtz) (02/14/90)

Ok, so what is the proper format for expiration dates in Usenet
postings?
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brnstnd@stealth.acf.nyu.edu (02/15/90)

In article <2549@sactoh0.UUCP> mholtz@sactoh0.UUCP (Mark A. Holtz) writes:
> Ok, so what is the proper format for expiration dates in Usenet
> postings?

Same as all other dates. One could argue, of course, that only posters
who can figure this out should be allowed to use the Expired header. :-)

---Dan