awolf@potomac.ads.com (Andy Wolf) (04/23/91)
I am having trouble with expire. I have cut back severly on the # of
days that I keep news (in half in most cases), e.g. comp and rec are only
4 days now. Yet I am still running out of disk space. I am using over
175 Mb, most of which is in comp and rec. I am running C-news (August patch,
I think), NNTP, rn, trn. All of this software was the most current last
November. Anyhow, my Sun-3's disks are getting clogged. I understand that
the extra program for expiring certain articles (news.newusers.questions, etc.)
is not needed for C-news. AM I wrong? I notice that several others are
having similar problems. I trim back the expiry length in explist and then
run doexpire as 'news', but not much happens! My news partition keeps
filling up. This sort of thing just started to happen a few weeks ago.
Please respond via mail at 'awolf@potomac.ads.com' because news is down a lot.
Thanks.
-Andy
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Andy Wolf Phone (703) 243-1611
Advanced Decision Systems Internet: awolf@potomac.ads.comdavidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (04/23/91)
In article <1991Apr22.223930.19922@potomac.ads.com> awolf@potomac.ads.com (Andy Wolf) writes: | I am having trouble with expire. I have cut back severly on the # of | days that I keep news (in half in most cases), e.g. comp and rec are only | 4 days now. Yet I am still running out of disk space. I've heard that song before. No matter what you do with expire, every one in a while you need find to blow away old files. Try this: MAXDAYS=14 # max days under any conditions NEWS=/usr/spool/news find $NEWS -type f -ctime +$MAXDAYS -print | xargs rm I bet it will cure your problem, set MAXDAYS as needed, run weekly from cron. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "Most of the VAX instructions are in microcode, but halt and no-op are in hardware for efficiency"
henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (04/23/91)
In article <1991Apr22.223930.19922@potomac.ads.com> awolf@potomac.ads.com (Andy Wolf) writes: >... I understand that >the extra program for expiring certain articles (news.newusers.questions, etc.) >is not needed for C-news. AM I wrong? ... C News expire should do the whole job, if it is working. >... I trim back the expiry length in explist and then >run doexpire as 'news', but not much happens! ... Are you sure doexpire is working? Are any problems turning up in the "usenet" mailbox (or wherever you chose to send trouble reports)? Is the file "history.o" getting created in /usr/lib/news? (Also sent via mail, but posted as it may be of more general interest.) -- And the bean-counter replied, | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology "beans are more important". | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
awolf@potomac.ads.com (Andy Wolf) (04/27/91)
In article <1991Apr23.145059.1129@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <1991Apr22.223930.19922@potomac.ads.com> awolf@potomac.ads.com (Andy Wolf) writes: >>... I understand that >>the extra program for expiring certain articles (news.newusers.questions, etc.) >>is not needed for C-news. AM I wrong? ... > >C News expire should do the whole job, if it is working. > >>... I trim back the expiry length in explist and then >>run doexpire as 'news', but not much happens! ... > >Are you sure doexpire is working? Are any problems turning up in the >"usenet" mailbox (or wherever you chose to send trouble reports)? Is >the file "history.o" getting created in /usr/lib/news? Yes, it is. Here's what helped: From rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil Tue Apr 23 09:37:44 1991 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 13:36:43 GMT From: "LCDR Michael E. Dobson" <rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> To: awolf@potomac.ads.com Subject: Re: Expire problems Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command Cc: Andy, I was having a similar problem right after I upgraded to the 24Mar91 version of C-News and I only have a 150Meg news spool. I solved the problem by first removing the history files, using mkhistory to rebuild the history with entries for all articles in my news spool, then running doexpire to get rid of the old articles. AS it turned out, for some unknown reason I had a bunch of old articles in my spool whose history file entries had been removed while the article hadn't. As a result, expire never removed them. I can now safely run with a default of 7 days except for rec, alt, talk, sci and soc which I expire at 4 days. Hope this helps. -- Mike Dobson, Sys Admin for | Internet: rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil | UUCP: ...uunet!mimsy!nmrdc1!rdc30 AT&T 3B2/600G Sys V R 3.2.2 | BITNET: dobson@usuhsb or nrd0mxd@vmnmdsc WIN/TCP for 3B2 | MCI-Mail: 377-2719 or 0003772719@mcimail.com Thanks to Mike. This exercise restored 50% of my news partition's free space. Any ideas WHY this happened? -Andy -- Andy Wolf Phone (703) 243-1611 Advanced Decision Systems Internet: awolf@potomac.ads.com
sarima@tdatirv.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) (04/30/91)
In article <1991Apr26.210047.23740@potomac.ads.com> awolf@potomac.ads.com (Andy Wolf) writes: >I was having a similar problem ... >... AS it turned out, for some unknown reason I had a bunch >of old articles in my spool whose history file entries had been removed while >the article hadn't. As a result, expire never removed them. Question, can this happen with B-news as well? We have had some intermittent problems here with an i-node leak on the news partition here. [Of course, this was associated with a related tendency to overflow available resources, so I do not know which came first, the overflows or the leak]. We are doing fine for now, but I would like to be prepared if it ever happens again. (We are OK now because I was forced to rebuild the file system and added a great many i-nodes). -- --------------- uunet!tdatirv!sarima (Stanley Friesen)