[news.admin] Dropping non-complient articles

rick@pavlov.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) (06/19/91)

like some other people, I have tried to keep silent but this latest set of
a postings is too much. Mathew, will you please just shut up. No one really
has seen anything new to the discussion from you in quite a while. Give it 
a rest and let it drop, the horse is long dead and your are simply beating
it into dust. 

In any case, I have the following observations about this entire episode.

1) I think that Henry was perhaps not as careful as he might have been in 
warning people of the impending change. I believe it was discussed in
news.software.b and may have been mentioned in news.admin. I would suggest
that when a major change in behaviour is made in the future, notice also
should be posted in news.announce.important. In any case, people are aware
of C-News' behaviour now so you don't need to keep harping on it.

2) I really do wonder why you are not being as hostile to the author of your
news reader software since this is the component that is generating buggy 
headers.This is something in all of your rantings that I have never seen
explained. What reader do you use?

3) In any case, you will accomplish nothing more than has been accomplished.
We now have administrators who will post dropped article information so you
can see if your precious postings are being dropped. I really believe this
is all you can expect due to the design model of netnews.You cannot expect
the patch to be withdrawn and I really do believe that RFC complience is a 
good thing. 
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mathew@mantis.co.uk (Giving C News a *HUG*) (06/19/91)

rick@pavlov.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) writes:
> like some other people, I have tried to keep silent but this latest set of
> a postings is too much. Mathew, will you please just shut up. No one really
> has seen anything new to the discussion from you in quite a while.

Of course not.  They haven't either come up with a solution to the problem,
or indicated what is wrong with the proposed solution using news to propogate
the error messages.

All they keep doing is making idiotic statements like "Nyaah, you can't send
fifty billion mail messages from each site", or "Nyaah, C News is free, so it
doesn't matter if it loses articles", or "Nyaah, who cares if Usenet is
unreliable?"

As long as they keep propping up straw-man arguments I'll keep pointing out
that they are irrelevant.

> 2) I really do wonder why you are not being as hostile to the author of your
> news reader software since this is the component that is generating buggy 
> headers.

I'm not being as hostile to him because he fixed his cock-up immediately when
told about it, whereas Henry won't even admit he's made a mistake.

> 3) In any case, you will accomplish nothing more than has been accomplished.
> We now have administrators who will post dropped article information so you
> can see if your precious postings are being dropped.

No I can't.  If my articles are dropped, they'll be dropped before they get
to those administrators' sites.


mathew