[news.sysadmin] Canadian country-level domain

rayan@ai.toronto.edu (02/25/87)

For a long time now there has been a wish for Canada to have its very own
top-level domain in the internet namespace. A few months ago, a small
discussion group was assembled to discuss this matter to avoid one group
or network going off on its own with a scheme the other nets wouldn't accept.

The group consisted of one representative from each of CDNnet, NetNorth,
DRE/DND (Defense Research Establishment), and the UUCP network. Since
the UUCP net has no official organization looking after its interests, the
UUCP map coordinator for Canada (me) was the closest thing to a representative.

We are now very close to submitting the official domain registration, and
this posting is intended to make site administrators aware of the current
status of the discussions and summarize some of the issues that have come up.


- What should the name be?

There are two alternatives: CAN and CA. The standard for country level
domains is to use the ISO 2-letter code of the country. The only exception
so far has been Great Britain which is using UK instead of GB. The people
who would approve the application for the Canadian domain have indicated
that they will accept a request for CAN even though their guidelines
recommend otherwise. The reason for this is that they recognize the confusion
that would arise with CA since that is a well-known abbreviation of a
very large U.S. state. The CDN name is not available since it was used by
CDNnet when it was started up.

Last year I conducted a private poll among sysadmins about which of CA or
CAN they would prefer to see. The response was overwhelmingly in favour of
CAN for the reason mentioned above.

In the discussion group, NetNorth was in favor of CA, DND seemed indifferent
though slightly favouring CA, CDNnet seemed indifferent though slightly
favouring CAN, and UUCP (I) was arguing for CAN against CA. The sentiment
at NetNorth and DND seemed to be that they thought CA would end up being the
domain name in the X.400 world in the end, but CDNnet (the granddaddy X.400
network) did not express such an opinion. Since UUCP was strongly in favour
of CAN and against CA, it was decided to settle on CAN.


- What should the second level domains be?

Choices were organizational, functional, and geographical second level domains
(2LDs). Geographical domains were dismissed. NetNorth insisted (and still do)
on becoming NETNORTH.CAN. DND wouldn't be affected by this issue since their
functional and organizational 2LD would be the same. As for CDNnet and UUCP,
we both agreed that organizational 2LDs would be most convenient, however I
argued against it. Whereas CDNnet and NetNorth have a relatively small
number of (large) similar institutions as members, the UUCP network embodies
a large number of sites with diverse characteristics. Since the domain naming
system is likely to be with us for a long long time, I argued in favour of
functional 2LDs so the namespace could accomodate the expected growth over
the next 2-N decades. There were other reasons for taking this position as
well, for example several organizations with widely different functions having
the same or similar name (e.g. city or provincial governments and universities).

I believe there should be as many 2LDs as necessary to accomodate the various
classes of sites, e.g. educational, business, government, private individuals,
the military, the public carriers, etc. The present need would be for 2LD
names for educational institutions, the military, and business. The Internet
toplevel domains for these are EDU, MIL, and COM, whereas for example Great
Britain has chosen AC (academic community) instead of EDU. I suggested that
EDU et al would be more natural for the Canadian language than AC, and to
use those as the first cut at a set of 2LDs. The number of 2LDs shouldn't
be cast in stone. CDNnet went along with this (with DND indifferent and
NetNorth still insisting on them getting NETNORTH.CAN and indifferent about
what happened outside of their domain).

CSNET has gratiously agreed to manage the necessary Internet nameserver
information needed for the CAN domain, for the time being. Eventually, as
Canadian Internet connections appear, we expect to move this responsibility to
Canadian hosts.

Just as with the present Internet domains (or any other proper domain), a
host or site cannot simply claim a name within the CAN domain space. All
names must be registered with the appropriate domain authority. For some of
the (functional) 2LDs, the authority will be with a committee of
representatives from each of the wide-area mail networks that have members
in the 2LDs (or rather, that 'can have' members... - to avoid the bootstrap
problem). For most/all organizations and institutions the authority would be
delegated appropriately. The networks (primarily CDNnet and UUCP I expect)
will coordinate the shared namespaces (e.g. under EDU.CAN).

If you have comments on what you have read, please let me know. Hopefully
we can get the domain registered and things rolling in relatively short
order (it has taken months to get to this stage...).

rayan
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Rayan Zachariassen
AI group, University of Toronto
(in no way representing either)