[news.sysadmin] Valspeak in sci.*

gsmith@brahms.UUCP (04/13/87)

>Just for the record, I find the output of "valspeak" filters like the
>one used in the above to be highly annoying (that's where "thuh" and
>"oh baby" came from), since such programs simply do not do a very good
>job of conversion.  I realize, however, that many people regard it as
>their privilege to post annoying messages, so I can't expect much change,
>I suppose.

In point of fact, Paul Koloc is not using valspeak.  Someone, apparently
at mimsy.umd.edu is however--Matthew and I just checked at several sites,
and have contacted Paul via e-mail.  This is just like the teenage ames
bozos who have been changing weemba's articles for almost a year now.

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magore@watdcsu.UUCP (04/14/87)

Hello Gene,

In article <1116@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> gsmith@brahms.Berkeley.EDU (Gene Ward Smith) writes:
[was about valspeak ...]

>In point of fact, Paul Koloc is not using valspeak.  Someone, apparently
>at mimsy.umd.edu is however--Matthew and I just checked at several sites,
>and have contacted Paul via e-mail.  This is just like the teenage ames
>bozos who have been changing weemba's articles for almost a year now.
[munch...]
>
>	Gene Ward Smith

	This may not be a only case of a possible faked posting.
In talk.religion.misc I found the two following headers attributed to
Ken Arndt for what is supposed to be Paul's news site. I have two
correct examples following those the reflect recent traffic from 
Pauls Machine. I hope this information will be of help to you and
Paul and who ever else thought the funny paths were strange...
This may help you find a least common root path _if_ someone is
playing games with the postings...:


Best Regards,

[Note: The 'Sender field' in the following two postings that I have
 never found in a typical posting from prometheus. Checking out the
 map database might give some insight...]

====================
Ken Arndt ????? (talk.religion.misc)
====================
Path: watdcsu!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!prometheus.UUCP!arndt
Message-ID: <607@prometheus.UUCP>
Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
--------
Path: watdcsu!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!prometheus.UUCP!arndt
Message-ID: <606@prometheus.UUCP>
Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU


=================
Paul	(talk.religion.misc)
=================
Path: watdcsu!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!lll-lcc!seismo!mimsy!prometheus!pmk
Message-ID: <601@prometheus.UUCP>
--------
Path: watdcsu!watnot!watmath!clyde!rutgers!seismo!mimsy!prometheus!pmk
Message-ID: <618@prometheus.UUCP>
--------

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