weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Matthew P Wiener) (01/10/88)
Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Oh never mind that sh*t, let's get this over with. Hit 'n' now if you've got important work to do. Articles <8801042134.AA07965@garnet.berkeley.edu> <8801061146.AA04987@garnet.berkeley.edu> <8801071134.AA05730@garnet.berkeley.edu> are all forgeries in my name. They all have ihnp4!ptsfa!pyramid!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU!weemba as part of the path. The first was the first potty article, the second was a flame against Mark Ethan Smith that I haven't even bothered to read, and the third was a retarded claim about the first potty article, and incorrect assertions about my Uncle Marvin posting. All 3 were crossposted to 4 or more newsgroups; so this one is scattered to them all. Article <8801081530.AA00815@garnet.berkeley.edu>, which is genuine, and in alt.flame only, contains my accusation that Andrew B Peed, user ihnp4!ihlpg!apeed is both a pseudonym and the forger of <8801042134.AA07965@garnet.berkeley.edu>, along with the earlier news@killer (THE DICKLESS WONDER) and bitch@chinet (but twice as absorbent!) articles: the only thread they have in common is ihnp4. I have not seen a response to the alt.flame article from ihlpg!apeed; instead there have been two more forgeries. I tried to mostly ignore the problem first time around, but someone is keeping it up; hence this article. And I've changed my software around a bit (on schedule too, would you believe). Now if another such forged article comes from the same distant site, it can only do so by cancelling a genuine ucbvax article, or using an obviously out-of-sequence article number. ucbvax!garnet!weemba Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
wisner@eddie.MIT.EDU (Bill Wisner) (01/10/88)
The articles from new@killer and bitch@chinet were not forgeries, but rather authentic articles from not-so-authentic accounts. new@killer was a breakin on that account - I do now know this as a fact personally, but I am acquainted with the administrator of killer. bitch@chinet was a real user - chinet runs software which will automatically create an account for anybody who bothers to call. bitch then walked through a loophole in the system's news posting security. ..bill
apeed@ihlpg.ATT.COM (Andrew B. Peed) (01/11/88)
> Articles > <8801042134.AA07965@garnet.berkeley.edu> > <8801061146.AA04987@garnet.berkeley.edu> > <8801071134.AA05730@garnet.berkeley.edu> > are all forgeries in my name. They all have > ihnp4!ptsfa!pyramid!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU!weemba > as part of the path. > > Article <8801081530.AA00815@garnet.berkeley.edu>, which is genuine, > and in alt.flame only, contains my accusation that Andrew B Peed, > user ihnp4!ihlpg!apeed is both a pseudonym and the forger of > <8801042134.AA07965@garnet.berkeley.edu>, along with the earlier > news@killer (THE DICKLESS WONDER) and bitch@chinet (but twice as > absorbent!) articles: the only thread they have in common is ihnp4. > I have not seen a response to the alt.flame article from ihlpg!apeed; > instead there have been two more forgeries. Forgeries in your name or not, your accusation is a) unbased, and b) laughable. You have not seen a response earlier because I do not work on Saturdays. You have already seen a response concerning news and bitch from Bill Wisner; I now speak for myself. Since no amount of harangue on my part will serve to convince you of my identity, I offer the following information which you may want to use if you feel it necessary. Employer: Computer Horizons Corporation 150 N. Wacker Dr. Suite 1330 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-4747 Note: This is the front office; this is not where I physically work. Anyone you speak to here (Craig, Pete, Steve, Nada, ?) will verify my employment. Contractor: AT&T Bell Laboratories Naperville-Wheaton Rds. Naperville, IL 60566-7033 (312) 979-2000 Note: This is the lobby of the building in which I work. Whether they choose to transfer your call to my office will depend upon how abusive you are. For verification purposes, my office is IH-1B411, and my extension is 3433. (This is new information, which Sunny may not have- I have just moved into a new office. my old office and extension are IH-1B420, ext. 6442) My home address: 1275 Marshall Blvd., #201 Aurora, IL 60505 My home phone number should be available via Directory Assistance, since I moved here in July. If it is not, please send E-mail- I will not disclose my phone number on a national forum, and I would appreciate it if the rest of the net would respect my privacy and not disclose it for me. Other information you may like to verify: I graduated Cum Laude in Computer Science from Michigan Technological University in Houghton, MI, 49931 in May 1987; I was employed part-time by Academic Computing Services there. Call (906) 487-2110 and ask for Betty, Sharon, Jean, Ted, or John Tucker. (Manager of Microcomputing, Manager of Operations, Operations Assistant, Manager of User Education, and System Programmer respectively.) In short, I posted the "Here we go again" article in the hopes that it might head off another barrage similar to the many that have clogged the net in the past; I see now that it was a vain hope. Very well, flame away. I have been an avid reader of alt.flame, and an occasional poster; the idea of a forum for succinct screaming appeals to me. Your treatment of it, Mr. Weiner, however, is an abuse of it, as your screaming is anything but succinct. I will continue to read alt.flame- with no kill file- but this is the only response I will make in the defense of my dignity and identity. You know, as well as I, that repeated responses which expound the same point over and over again, begin to sound dubious, at best. I remain, Andrew B. Peed
firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth) (01/14/88)
If there are both a real Wiener and a mirror-image anti-Wiener wandering about, would not the best solution be to bring them together, thereby causing their mutual annihilation and (with any luck) the destruction of Berkeley by the resulting blaze of radiation? :-)
weemba@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) (01/14/88)
In article <22493@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (the False Wiener) writes: >Articles ><8801042134.AA07965@garnet.berkeley.edu> ><8801061146.AA04987@garnet.berkeley.edu> ><8801071134.AA05730@garnet.berkeley.edu> >are all forgeries in my name. They all have >ihnp4!ptsfa!pyramid!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU!weemba >as part of the path. Yes, and so does your mother. In reality, article <22493@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> is the forgery, as was <8801030615.AA08864@garnet.berkeley.edu>, but that's another story that can be verified simply by knowing that I couldn't possibly have posted an article at the time indicated in that article number. More on this later only if absolutely necessary. This is becoming tedious even for me. >The first was the first potty article, the second was a flame against >Mark Ethan Smith that I haven't even bothered to read, and the third >was a retarded claim about the first potty article, and incorrect >assertions about my Uncle Marvin posting. All 3 were crossposted to >4 or more newsgroups; so this one is scattered to them all. Just like your brain is scattered to the four winds. It was your Uncle Marvin articles that constituted the forgeries, an effort to make it look like I would be vain enough to post an article to the net just to say that my uncle's name was Marvin. How appllingly infantile. I don't even have an uncle named Marvin, although I did have an Uncle Martin who died many years ago. >Article <8801081530.AA00815@garnet.berkeley.edu>, which is genuine, Sez you, sleazebag! >and in alt.flame only, contains my accusation that Andrew B Peed, >user ihnp4!ihlpg!apeed is both a pseudonym and the forger of ><8801042134.AA07965@garnet.berkeley.edu>, along with the earlier >news@killer (THE DICKLESS WONDER) and bitch@chinet (but twice as >absorbent!) articles: the only thread they have in common is ihnp4. It also accuses him of being the author of the Protocol of the Elders of Berkeley, also a forgery. The only thread they have in common is the single thin one that this False Wiener's verbiage hangs from. >I have not seen a response to the alt.flame article from ihlpg!apeed; >instead there have been two more forgeries. No one responded to your "article" because everyone knew it was a fake. People have responded to my articles because they can tell the real Matthew P Wiener from a pompous snot-nosed brat-wimp who wishes he could be Matthew P Wiener. I leave it to the net to decide. Who is the real Matthew P Wiener? Who is the Matthew P Wiener you want to see? Me or the wimpy little shit who shouts "forgery" the way Captain Carnage used to shout "lawsuit" ad infinitum? I put it to a vote. (Followups to alt.flame, that way there can be no question of impropriety or doctoring the ballots.) Who do you want to be Matthew P Wiener, the fake fraud (him) or the genuine article (me)? (To make the voting clearer, refer to me as Matthew and the other jerk as Matthew' or "Matthew prime" for the uninitiated.) >I tried to mostly ignore the problem first time around, but someone >is keeping it up; hence this article. And I've changed my software >around a bit (on schedule too, would you believe). Now if another >such forged article comes from the same distant site, it can only >do so by cancelling a genuine ucbvax article, or using an obviously >out-of-sequence article number. What this twit is trying to say here is that he knows I can trace his whereabouts if he continued to use his old numbering scheme, emulating the genuine Brahms Gang style, so he has deliberately switched to the <22493@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> numbering scheme to avoid detection. And anyone who knows anything about me knows that I don't control netnews software at Berkeley in the least, I don't have that authority or ability, so the claims of my changing the software are one more clue, helping to answer the question of who is the real Matthew P Wiener and who is the illiterate poseur twonk. Before I forget, I apologize to Andrew B. Peed for the rash accusation made by my "twin" here. He isn't himself anymore. Let's hope it stays that way. ucbvax!garnet!weemba The REAL Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720 "It's me," Novins said. "How'd you enjoy your first day in my skin?" "How did you enjoy your first day out of it?" he replied.
vause@ncrcae.Columbia.NCR.COM (Sam Vause) (01/15/88)
Isn't it about time to halt all of this mindless drivel? At least edit soc.motss out of the Newsgroups... +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Sam Vause, NCR Corporation, TOWER International Customer Services,| |3325 Platt Springs Road, West Columbia, SC 29169 (803) 791-6953 | | ...!ucbvax!sdcsvax!ncr-sd!ncrcae!cs-col!vause | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
mack@inco.UUCP (Dave Mack) (01/21/88)
In article <8801121035.AA00216@garnet.berkeley.edu>, weemba@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU (Obnoxious Math Grad Student) writes: > In article <22493@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (the False Wiener) writes: [Assorted screeching deleted] > No one responded to your "article" because everyone knew it was a fake. > People have responded to my articles because they can tell the real > Matthew P Wiener from a pompous snot-nosed brat-wimp who wishes he could > be Matthew P Wiener. I leave it to the net to decide. Who is the real > Matthew P Wiener? Who is the Matthew P Wiener you want to see? Me or > the wimpy little shit who shouts "forgery" the way Captain Carnage used to > shout "lawsuit" ad infinitum? I put it to a vote. (Followups to alt.flame, > that way there can be no question of impropriety or doctoring the ballots.) > Who do you want to be Matthew P Wiener, the fake fraud (him) or the genuine > article (me)? (To make the voting clearer, refer to me as Matthew and the > other jerk as Matthew' or "Matthew prime" for the uninitiated.) I vote for Matthew'. My reason follows the next paragraph. > who knows anything about me knows that I don't control netnews software at > Berkeley in the least, I don't have that authority or ability, so the claims > of my changing the software are one more clue, helping to answer the question > of who is the real Matthew P Wiener and who is the illiterate poseur twonk. This proves it. The real weemba would never admit that he doesn't have the ability to control the netnews software. This article is a forgery. Probably. > ucbvax!garnet!weemba The REAL Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720 Nope, I don't think so. I think this is the fake weemba. In addition to the reason given above, this is just not the old weemba style. Too meek, too conciliatory. I think the net should strongly consider the possibility that Andrew Peed and the assorted weembas posting here are all actually Rich Rosen. Followups to talk.bizarre, please. And for those with shriveled humor detectors: :-) PS: I truncated the distribution massively. It's bad enough to have this drivel scattered all over the net without adding my idiocy to it. -- Dave Mack The Only *Real* Answer Man McDonnell Douglas-Inco, Inc. DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed 8201 Greensboro Drive are my own and in no way reflect the McLean, VA 22102 views of McDonnell Douglas or its (703)883-3911 subsidiaries. {uunet | sundc | rlgvax | netxcom | decuac}!hadron!inco!mack Please help support the Foundation to Stamp Out Gweg Norak in his Lifetime.