[news.sysadmin] two machines with same name

jim@b-mrda.UUCP (jim sadler) (03/16/88)

So what happens when two sites are using the same name ?  We have a machine
by the name of portnoy.  Its been around for awhile.  while I was working on
the new maps, I noticed that there was a portnoy in california.  

So now what ?



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woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) (03/18/88)

In article <1040001@b-mrda.UUCP> jim@b-mrda.UUCP (jim sadler) writes:
>So what happens when two sites are using the same name ?  We have a machine
>by the name of portnoy.  Its been around for awhile.  while I was working on
>the new maps, I noticed that there was a portnoy in california.  

  If both names are in the uucp maps, then the map coordinators have
made an error. If not, then he who publishes first gets the name. If
you never published a map entry for your site, then it is not even
an "official" site and mail directed to it is likely to wind up in
California. Bottom line: choose unique names and PUBLISH them if
you want them to be accessible from the entire net.

--Greg

jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) (03/18/88)

In article <1040001@b-mrda.UUCP> jim@b-mrda.UUCP (jim sadler) writes:
>So what happens when two sites are using the same name ?  We have a machine
>by the name of portnoy.  Its been around for awhile.  while I was working on
>the new maps, I noticed that there was a portnoy in california.  
>
>So now what ?

Wellllll, there's only one portnoy.UUCP.  It's the one in the UUCP
map.  So if you hook up your portnoy to Usenet, you can't have it
call itself portnoy.UUCP or chaos will result.  You'll get their
mail, etc.  First one on the map gets the name.

If you have a registered domain, you have no problem.  Your portnoy
can be portnoy.boeing.com or some such.

Ideally, bang paths should be bang paths, but some sites insist on
rerouting mail even if the path is valid.  As a result, anyone
attempting to mail to portnoy right now risks having mail go to the
other portnoy even though the path is unambiguous.  Especially if
they mail through rutgers, the best-connected of the promiscuous
rerouters.  Grr, Mel.

The good news on this score is that the new, soon-to-be-released
whizbang version of Smail won't reroute bang paths.  We had a room
full of frustrated users stand up and cheer when that was announced.


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